kathy,
    I can not tell me how helpful your post was to me. I really have been 
struggling with whether to keep syringing him.  He holds it down, but acts like 
it is very unpleasant for him.  I would like to stop doing it, but was not sure 
if that will make him feel worse than he needs to, having no food.  It is 
possible that he is not eating because his body is shutting down, as you say. 
But 
it is also possible that it is just because his high bilirubin levels from 
liver cancer (he is jaundiced) are making him nauseous but he has not started 
to 
shut down yet. How would I know? Or do you think it does not matter, because 
if he does not eat then he will start to shut down anyway?

I am also on the fence about fluids. He had been letting me give him 50 cc's 
at a time before getting up and leaving. Now he will not sit for them at all, 
and gets really upset if I try to hold him (to the point of hyperventillating 
once).  He is drinking a lot because he has a lot of steroids in him, and his 
skin bounces back fairly quickly so he is not that dehydrated. I was giving 
him fluids because the oncologist said to get as much in him as possible to 
help 
him process the billirubin which is toxic and makes him nauseous. Do you 
think I should stop with the fluids too? he had about 200 cc yesterday, but 
today 
I probably got less than 30 cc in him because he is fighting more and I was 
not willing to hold him down.  I sort of want to just let him sleep, drink, and 
get his belly rubbed, and just give him his anti-nausea med and pepcid and 
leave it at that.  Do you think that is ok, or that because I do not want to 
upset him I am decreasing his well-being while he is still here by him not 
having 
food and extra fluids? I take it from your last email you would support my not 
forcing these things on him.  Is that true even if his nausea is from the 
billirubin and not from death preparations?  Though he does not vomit, so maybe 
it is more lack of appetite, as you say, rather than severe nausea.

As for the purring, it is definitly from wanting to be pet and cuddle. He 
only purrs when I pet him and he sometimes then rolls on his back to get his 
belly rubbed, and his purrs increase when I kiss him or hold him near. If I 
stop 
petting, he stops purring. Also, if he is upset, like if I have just tried to 
feed him or give him fluids, he will not purr when I pet him.  It takes until 
he looks relaxes again for him to want to be pet, and then he purrs. All of 
this makes it seem clear that his purrs are from pleasure or affection and not 
distress, otherwise I would assume he would purr when not being pet and when he 
is upset.

I do have a tranquilizer which I will give him if he starts howling or 
getting visibly restless or distressed. I do not want him to go through that.

This is definitely killing me, though.  I think that people who say "if you 
don't euthanize you are doing it for yourself, in order to keep him longer" 
have never sat through this process.  It is as bad as mourning, and it does not 
prevent having to mourn eventually.  I feel like I am sick myself, from lack of 
sleep, from anxiety, from not eating myself (I have no appetite), from grief. 
 I really do not feel like this is the easy way out. I can not explain what 
keeps me from euthanizing him, other than feeling it is not my place to do that 
if he is just weak and exhausted but still gets comfort from pets.  And 
because my partner is against it, I guess.  I will euthanize if he is 
distressed 
and the tranquilizer does not stop it.  I am not flat-out against euthanasia. I 
just can not do it now, when he is ocassionally rolling onto his back for a 
belly rub and looking content and purring.

Michelle


In a message dated 1/10/05 2:40:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< (I do hospice care for people.)
 
As the body prepares for death, the body shifts energy from the digestive  
system to the other organs - heart, lungs & brain mainly.  Many people  will 
ask 
for water up to the last day or two, but will refuse food for the last  week 
or two.  because their digestive system is shut down, they aren't  hungry.  
Making them eat is like making someone who's just gorged on  Thanksgiving 
dinner 
eat a huge, extra rich dessert.  Syringing a little to  see if he'll take it 
is okay, but try to resist making him take more than he'll  willingly eat.  
Let him guide you about his water and food intake.   Keep it available and 
keep 
it appetizing - this is an excellent time to offer  special foods he's always 
adored but didn't get to have often - but in general,  do him a favor and 
don't force feed.  It's also normal for them to become  comatose (nearly to 
completely unresponsive).  They're still aware of you  and what's happening 
to them 
and they can still hear, it's just that they don't  have the strength to 
respond anymore. 
 
Keep in mind that it's not unusual for cats to purr when they're in  pain.  
The frequency of the vibration of purrs is healing and comforting  for them.  
It's also not unheard of for them to not want to go (Legolas  didn't want to 
go).  When his body's ready to go, you'll know.  Watch  out for/expect severe 
congestion and restlessness.  You might even hear his  breathing sound like 
air 
blown through a straw into milk or a thick  liquid.  It's normal.  If he 
starts a long mournful wail (death howls)  he's very close (probably within a 
couple hours).  The howls may or may not  happen, and they also may or may 
not 
indicate pain or anxiety.  They  can be very difficult to hear though.  When 
I 
heard it the first time, it  really freaked me out.
 
It takes a very strong person to stay with an animal through a natural  death 
- it could be peaceful and calm and everything will just stop, or they  could 
end up struggling and having a very difficult time before the end.  
 
I hope that when Simon's time comes, his end is peaceful and he just slips  
away in his sleep.  

Kathy >>


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