At 11:08 PM -0400 6/30/02, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:

>
>In any case, whatever this is strikes me as a heck of a lot of hard work,
>versus just learning 3 against 4 by itself. I had to sketch this sentence
>on paper a few times. Kids get this? I taught elementary school music for
>six years and never used such stuff. But I had the luxury of groups of kids
>to play with, so we could get group rhythms going and trading with some ease.

If you just say it in rhythm to the kid, the communication is 
instant. Much better than reading it in English, or trying to beat it 
out with written rhythms for children who may not read rhythm all 
that well. Both my children, age 6 and 8, can beat it with their 
hands on a table, though neither one can read the rhythm.

in elementary school I learned Tah, tah (for two quarters), Tee-tee 
tah (for two eights and a quarter), Triple-tee (for eighth note 
triplets) and Teery-teery (for sixteenths.) In the last class of 
Grade Six, Mrs. Dent told us that if we ever saw five notes in a 
beat, to say "mathematical", and somehow it stuck with me, and I 
remembered it years later in university. I still use it today (should 
I be ashamed to admit that?)  8-)

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