David:

You've missed my point about Finale's upgrade schedule entirely. 
The point is that a Carbonized application runs on MacOS from 
8.6 to X.x.  Coda did not implement the incremental changes over 
the last four years that would have made the final step from a 
Classic application to a Carbonized one the equivalent of a 
minor upgrade.  Since Jari had no rebuttal to my post on the 
topic, I assume that he has understood what I have been 
attempting to communicate from the few technical details 
mentioned.  You obviously have not.  However, Jari is a very 
able programmer and undoubtedly more familiar with my way of 
explaining technical things in a terse manner.

Please drop this thread.


Philip


On Saturday, July 13, 2002, at 08:12  PM, David W. Fenton wrote:

> On 13 Jul 2002, at 7:55, Philip Aker wrote:

>> On Friday, July 12, 2002, at 02:52  PM, David W. Fenton wrote:

>>>> If you read my reply to Jari Williamsson on the same topic,
>>>> you will see that had Coda been implementing the changes for
>>>> Carbon incrementally, the adaption to MacOS X would be
>>>> comparable to a minor upgrade. That is because it's possible
>>>> to have a single Carbon executable which runs on MacOS from
>>>> 8.6 upwards to X.

>>>> If you have access to a Mac, I can demonstrate with with a
>>>> small Carbon test application I've been using to explore the
>>>> APIs.

>> [...]

>>> Mac OS X is not by any stretch of the imagination a minor upgrade.

>> What I said was:

>> "...had Coda been implementing the changes for Carbon
>> incrementally, the adaption to MacOS X would be comparable to a
>> minor upgrade."

>> I don't think you really know what I'm talking about because you
>> are not a Mac user and are incorrectly trying to make parallels
>> between Apple's migration strategies and those from Redmond. My
>> post to Jari went some way to explaining that.  Please read it
>> again.

> No.

> I do in fact know that OS X is not the MacOS. It is a version of UNIX.
> that alone means that it is fundamentally different from any 
> previous Mac
> operating system. That means that every structure built atop 
> that new OS
> may behave differently, even if it is an implementation of something in
> the basic Carbon API.

> It is all a question of exactly how the API call gets 
> translated into the
> actually communication with the underlying OS and then the hardware
> itself. The API call itself may be identical, but called atop a 
> different
> basic OS, the result can be very different.

> So, however long the Carbon API has been available and usable, 
> writing to
> that API is no guarantee of predictable results on the new OS.


Philip Aker
http://www.aker.ca

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