On 16 Mar 2004, at 05:59 AM, Dennis W. Manasco wrote:

At 3:43 pm -0500 3/15/04, Phil Daley wrote:

In a Windows app, it is not possible to have cascaded windows and maximized windows at the same time.

As soon as you maximize one cascaded window, all the rest are automatically maximized, too.


Aside Brad's comments, there is a subtle cultural difference between the concept of maximizing windows on the Macintosh and doing so on Windows that should be understood.

Under Windows, the "maximize" button causes the window to take up (essentially) the entire screen; a second application toggles to the original size.

Under both X and pre-X versions of the Macintosh OS, "maximize" means that the window is maximized so that it shows as much of its content as possible, but no more (plus a buffer zone that seems to be defined independently by each application) within an area of the screen that is less than its totality. Thus even a large Photoshop file, when maximized, does not take up the entire screen; there is always a portion of the background available that allows you to click into (or drag into) the Finder or some other strategically placed application (*).

As another example, a Finder window that is maximized does not occupy the whole screen: If it has only two items in it it will become just large enough to hold those two items (**). If it has a large number of items it may become wider or taller than can be displayed (or both), but will not take up the entire screen.

Most applications follow a similar logic, so that a word processing document will only be nine inches (or so) wide when it is maximized.

I'm sure that there is a better way to describe this, but it is a definite difference between the operating systems and is very noticeable when you switch back and forth between them.

Yes, but in Finale, the Zoom ("maximize") button is effectively the same as the Maximize button in Windows. In MacFinale, clicking the Zoom button *always* causes the top left corner of the window to align itself to the top left corner of the screen, and the window grows to the maximum "acceptable" size for the OS -- regardless of the window's current size and positioning, and regardless of the content of the window. The Zoom button never causes Finale to display a window that is only nine inches wide. (Unless it was like that before, and you hit the button twice -- you are right that it is a toggle.)


And yes, it's true that even when Finale windows are fully zoomed, there is still a tiny margin around the window that allows clicking on/dragging to the desktop, and you could theoretically drag the window to make it even larger (by dragging part of the window offscreen, but these are minor differences and not strictly relevant to the feature request. Like I said, in Safari, even if you have "maximized" a browser window by manually resizing it to take up the entire screen, and then hit command-n to spawn a new browser window, the new window will be stacked, not "cascaded." This is standard Mac OS X behavior now, and Finale should emulate it.

- Darcy

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