On 16 Mar 2004 at 14:10, gj.berg wrote:

> David W. Fenton wrote:
> 
> >I just upgraded an older file (I think it began life as 3.52, was
> >converted to WinFin97, now into WinFin2K3), and I'm having fits with
> >the spacing for any measure with blank notation in layer 1 and notes
> >in layer 4 (that's how I implement ornaments, as blank notation in
> >layer 1, with the printed music in layer 4, which has no playback). 
> >
> >I've done this many times, but for whatever reason, it's taking the
> >hidden notation into account in spacing.
> >
> >I assume that the settings I need should be in DOCUMENT OPTIONS under
> > LAYERS and MUSIC SPACING, but I can't seem to get any combination
> >that spaces music based on all visible layers only (in this
> >particular case, I have no instances of two visible layers at a time
> >in any one measure).
> >
> >I've gone through and space things manually in all the measures where
> > this applies, but this is a *real* pain in the ass.
> >
> >What am I doing wrong?
> 
> One suggestion is turn on active layer only - go to 4 then do
> spacing

Except that doesn't work, unless layer 4 has the most active note 
values. The point is that I need to space based on the most 
complicated notation, whichever part it's in and whichever layer, and 
that's the way Finale is *supposed* to work (and always has worked 
before, right?), but, other than switching layers (which screws up 
playback), there's no way for me to do it. Well, no, I see that 
doesn't work, either.

I just don't get it.

The other thing I don't understand is that I don't have the full 
staff styles list. Is this something that is *template-based*? 
**BOGGLE** How stupid can that be? It means I'm lacking tons of 
useful features because the file was created under a tempo that 
predates the addition of the staff styles feature, I'm guessing.

I suspect that this puts me on the right track as to the source of 
the problem -- it's something template-based that is causing the 
problem.

Have I not already said about a bazillion times that Finale's 
template implementation is braindead? It may be have been adequate in 
the late 80s, but it is completely bollixed up for modern computing.

-- 
David W. Fenton                        http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
David Fenton Associates                http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc

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