On 16 Mar 2004 at 19:36, Rich Caldwell wrote:

> I'm not sure why you used a blank notation staff style in the first
> place (maybe there weren't as many layer options in '97 or I'm missing
> a purpose for it here), . . .

There wasn't a spacing problem in WinFin97.

> . . . but even by using your method I couldn't
> duplicate the problem (MacFin2k4). . . 

Well, you've got to have something in the blank notation layer that 
is going to take up a lot of space, like the written-out notes for a 
trill. That's where I'm getting all the problems, with ornaments for 
playback.

> . . . However, I have a suggestion that
> might work if you can't get your staff-style method to space
> correctly:
> 
> -Delete the staff style.
> -Check the appropriate boxes in the layer options so that Layer 1
> doesn't affect music spacing. -Make Layer 4 Affect Music Spacing.
> -Then while in Layer 1, show active layer only. -Select All. -Use the
> "Notes and Rests (Hide)" plug-in to hide all of Layer 1's notes.
> 
> Respace.
> 
> The problem probably is that Finale only ignores HIDDEN notes, which
> probably isn't how Finale is interpreting "Blank Notation," for
> whatever reason.   If you really want to keep the staff style, it
> might work just to hide the notes while also making it blank.  But for
> simplicity's sake, I would cut the staff style.

In other words, I should change the approach I've been using 
successfully for getting my files to come out right since, oh, I 
don't know, 1994 or so?

Is there something wrong with this picture?

Why should blank notation be used in spacing?

Why is it that it didn't used to be and now it is?

First off, I *hate* hidden notes. At least with blank notation, when 
you enter the layer in the Speedy frame, you can see the notes (which 
you can't with hidden notes).

There are also weird interactions with articulations and expressions. 
Blank notation has weird interactions, too, but I've formatted all my 
files with these in mind, and having to go back and change all of 
them to use a completely new method is a real pain in the ass.

I've got dozens of files that I'm right now trying to produce PDFs 
for and font problems aside (for whatever reason, font names seem to 
have changed between WinFin97 and WinFin2K3), I've got lots of issues 
with layouts not coming out the same as they did, so that I'm having 
to redo them. It's a royal mess, and I seem to need to redo the page 
layout in more than half the files.

It's *extremely* frustrating.

-- 
David W. Fenton                        http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
David Fenton Associates                http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc

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