On 17 Mar 2004 at 8:39, Johannes Gebauer wrote:

> On 17.03.2004 1:51 Uhr, David W. Fenton wrote
> 
> > Well, you've got to have something in the blank notation layer that
> > is going to take up a lot of space, like the written-out notes for a
> > trill. That's where I'm getting all the problems, with ornaments for
> > playback.
> 
> do you really need those written out trills any more? Human Playback
> should do this for you.

Well, first off, I have no intention of upgrading Finale beyond 
WinFin2K3 until such time as Coda implements some kind of key escrow 
program to guarantee that if they go out of business their 
applications will continue to be usable.

Second, I doubt that Human Playback will realize trills the way *I* 
want them realized, which is different for different tempos and 
sometimes has a non-written-out termination and sometimes don't. 
Sometimes one lingers a long time on the first note, sometimes one 
doesn't. Of course, I assume you can control whether the trill starts 
on the main note or from above (something Tobias's plugin can't do), 
but I doubt you can do it on a trill-by-trill basis, which is 
required in many kinds of music.

Third, "upgrade" is not a very good answer to a problem like this, 
especially if it existed before WinFin2K3 (which I don't know). My 
guess is that it was introduced when staff styles were introduced, 
which was Finale98, if I'm not mistaken. Upgrades bring with them all 
sorts of problems, and this one seems to itself be caused for me 
personally by an upgrade (it worked fine in WinFin97), so I can't say 
what new problems I'd be gaining in upgrading to fix this one.

> On the other hand I think the problem with the spacing should be
> reported.

Well, I need to confirm that other people can reproduce it and it's 
not just something flakey about my settings. So far, one person says 
they can't and a couple of others have said they could.

I don't understand why blank notation should affect spacing. Perhaps 
other kinds of alternate notation should affect spacing, but blank 
notation worked fine in WinFin97 in regard to spacing.

If it's confirmed that everyone has this problem, then I'll 
definitely report it. But I do need to know if it's also a problem in 
Finale2K4.

-- 
David W. Fenton                        http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
David Fenton Associates                http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc

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