But, as you will observe later on in this post David, most likely not the last.
All seem cosmetic, at the shell level.
You'll have to do some explaining about "shell level". MacOS X runs critical portions at BSD "shell level". Which, for some utilities, is the direct interface to what you might call 'kernel'. Hardly cosmetic.
These are the kinds of things that Microsoft always screws up, because they tend to copy only the look and not the underlying information architecture.
MS screws it up because they don't have a flexible enough system architecture. From your reply to DB-K: "This is yet another of those situations where a fundamental problem is "solved" by pasting on yet another level of kludges to cover up the fact that at base, something is wrong with the organization of the OS in the first place if people have such difficulty managing their files."
What's happening is that although the integration of Unix, Carbon, Cocoa, and other technologies into a single new MacOS has not been without growing pains, facts are that it's solid and very usable right now. But more importantly, it's adaptable, malleable, and scalable. Because Longhorn has been taking so long, one must conclude that it does not possess the kind of flexible OS design necessary for a modern operating system. . . .
This is to laugh.
What was the time frame between the announcement of a successor to the MacOS and the first non-beta release of OS X? Copland was discarded, and then OS X eventually replaced it. A version of Copland was featured onscreen in Independence Day, which was released in 1996.
For a company with at least 10 times the number of programmers that Apple has, Microsoft should have released Longhorn within two years. The real laugh is that the so called "Chief Software Architect" of Microsoft would permit such an inflexible design to proceed in the first place.
. . . Instead, it appears to be an awkward kluge of ideas stolen from other operating systems. . . .
Again, I'm all ears.
I'm hoping they aren't the kind made out of tin.
Other than trying to copy the non-essential aspects of the Aqua UI, what exactly is Microsoft copying from other OS's?
I'd say just about everything except for sleazy business practices. Let's let you do some work David. Please provide proof that Longhorn features are actually new inventions and not ideas stolen from elsewhere. You keep on referring to UI aspects as if they were nothing. If so, why does Microsoft steal them? I'd say that a large portion of a modern computer system is UI design and implementation. And that's only possible if one has a flexible supporting architecture. Gates (so called MS Chief Software Architect) hasn't come up with that yet. Only, as you've mentioned elsewhere, kludge upon kludge.
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This is an OS-level implementation of a feature that's been present in MS's Office applications since the release of Office XP as "Task Panes",
But you previously mentioned that XP is stolen from OS X: "Er, Windows XP was the one that was a cheap and poorly done ripoff of OS X.".
And yes, I'm talking about OS-level implementation. Not applications that users have to purchase in addition to the investment in the OS.
Many of these things that you say are stolen from OS X actually represent the latest iteration of technologies that MS has been working for many, many years.
What you're not stating is that Microsoft also stole those technologies.
Yes, they've often borrowed little bits and pieces and presentation aspects from Mac OS X, but the underlying technologies involved have been under development in many cases since long before OS X was released.
See above. Unless it's in the area of corporate sleaze, Microsoft is not an innovative technology company. It only tries to act like one in advertisements.
The fact that two clocks may agree with each other about the time does not mean that one is copying from the other -- it may indicate that both have independently arrived at the same piece of correct information.
Ludicrous statement.
Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca
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