At 11:10 AM -0400 6/02/04, Giz Bowe wrote:
I'm doing arrangements for a soul band horn section. What I want to do is have the coda section start a new system -- no problem, just check "begin new system" in the measure dialogue box. What I also want to do, however, is indent that line, and place the coda symbol to the left, even with the staff. This would be easier for my guys to read. I can set this up in the score, but it doesn't happen when I extract parts. I'm trying to save adjusting each individual part -- gotta conserve those keystrokes!



You can place the coda sign in the score, and it will show up probably to the left of the staff when the parts are extracted (unless you come up against that stupid re-positioning of repeat texts "feature" that has plagued Finale since I started using it, which is why I have created Measure Expression repeat symbols that stay where I put them).

But there is probably no alternative to dragging the right side of the staff left on every part to indent it once it is extracted. The alternatives (laying out a part, then copying the music from the other parts into it) are more complicated, as you would have to go in and change titles, transpositions, and who knows what else in the new part.

Here is where I got that procedure from, if you ever need it. It was written by Lee Monroe, from Express Music services, and he posted it on the web. On long parts or parts with complex layout problems, or sections (like 4 trumpets that always play at the same time) it is great, and saves me mucho hours. It might help you out with your mixed horn group.

Christopher






Express Music Extraction Process

You must initially extract a part with the normal Finale extraction
process; Flute 1 as an example. Bring this file up and set it up
exactly the way you want it. Title information, page margins, system
spacing, etc...


A note about page margins, Express uses the margins strictly to contain
the music, all of the title information should actually be outside the
page margins.  That way the title information (text tool)  will always
move relative to the page margins and you can then adjust the music
systems to the edge of the margins (make sure that you have "avoid
margin collision" checked in the page layout drop down menu) without
being concerned that it will interfere with the page title information
(this applies to every page). If you can master this, you will go a long
way in avoiding clashes between the music and title information.

Once you have extracted the first part and set it up exactly the way you
want, then you are ready to begin the process.  You should have two
files open 1) the original full score and 2) the original extracted part
(Flute 1 in this example).  I like to have both windows visible with the
score file on the right one third of my screen vertically, the part file
shows vertically on the remaining two thirds of the screen - mind you I
have 21" screens at work & at home so this works out great.  Another
method to go back and forth between the files is to use control "W"
<ctrl+w>, the drop down "Window" menu will appear and you then choose
the number of the file you want to see (Ashley is a true master of this).

You will be pasting from the score to the parts and then saving them as
the new instrument, but you must be careful to follow this procedure
exactly or there is great potential for problems.



DO A FINAL SAVE ON YOUR EXTRACTED PART.



Here goes.

   1.

      From the file menu, do a <save as> and save your part under the
      new file name (let's say Flute 2)

   2.

      Go to Scroll View

   3.

      With the Mass Mover Tool - highlight the extracted part (target)
      and backspace, or Clear key of you are on a Mac (if you are in
      2000 or higher, you will also need to use the Staff Tool -
      highlight all and backspace as well).  This will eliminate all the
      information relative to that instrument but preserve global
      information (score expressions, page text tool entries)

   4.

      Go to the Edit Menu and uncheck Special Part Extraction (in 2000
      and later this is not used in the Finale extraction process)

   5.

      With the Mass Mover Tool - highlight the appropriate line in the
      score file (source) and copy to the clipboard by using the Control
      C copy command <ctrl+c>

   6.

      With the Mass Mover Tool - highlight the target file (Flute 2 file
      as an example) and use the Control V paste command <ctrl+v>.  This
      will paste the information (notes, staff, expressions, lyrics,
      etc...) from the source file to the target file.  This DOES NOT
      transfer Score Expressions (measure attached expressions) or Page
      attached text block information.  A note when pasting Lyrics, you
      must eliminate any lyrics from the target file before pasting
      lyrics from another file because these lyrics will stack on to the
      existing lyrics as new additional verses and will probably have
      their baselines altered.

   7.

      With the Staff Tool (treble clef) - double click on the target
      file to bring up the Staff Attributes menu.  Change any
      appropriate information (Clef, transposition, independent
      elements, notation choices, etc...).

   8.

      With the Staff Tool - highlight the target staff and then click on
      the Edit Menu.  Check the Special Part Extraction.  A Window will
      pop up - hit return.

   9.

      Use the Page Layout Tool to make any adjustments necessary to your
      target file.  Make sure to change the Instrument title on the
      front page as well as all subsequent pages.

  10.

      Lastly, you need to save, use the <ctrl+s> command.  Repeat this
      process for all the remaining parts.

This is a brief overview of our extraction method, there are still cases
where it is easier to use the Finale extraction process because of
special conditions for a part (lots of clef changes, or independent
elements, etc...).  You probably will need to have some experience with
Finale to get around using this method.
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