On Friday, Jul 2, 2004, at 22:56 America/Vancouver, shirling & neueweise wrote:

From: Philip Aker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Ugh! Well hindsight is 20/20 but I suggest you turn on your composer/client to font technologies as a viable means of expression.

yes, i have already designed my own fonts, and do design individual fonts for working with composers as needed, but the score was pretty much finished before the composer contacted me for an estimate: this will undoubtedly reoccur in the future with other new clients (hopefully not to such an extreme re: shape expressions!).

it seems to me a little exaggerated to have to suggest to my clients to learn a new programme to better make use of finale, when the slight alteration of the shape expression's functioning and behaviour i am suggesting to avoid this situation is already inherent to finale, just not in the one place it would be quite logical to have it.

True about it being awkward to ask a client to change his or her working habits. My consideration would be whether or not charges were by the hour or the page.


If by the hour, and you're willing to sit there and twiddle your thumbs while this or that process completes, well go ahead and pump up the bill.

If by the page, then time becomes a consideration. Perhaps offering some sort of pre-production stage where you converted the original score to the most time efficient elements and included custom fonts would be workable. Too late for the job you've described, but it's not unknown for publishers to have submission requirements and I opine, not unreasonable to charge clients for massaging their Finale scores into a suitable state. The optimal result being that you essentially train them to submit workable scores and then work effectively from those scores to completion at a faster pace.


Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca

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