I know in my world, which is show-business, I have never seen bar number 0. Neither in classical music. I also think that a drummer playing from bar 0 to bar 7 in a jazz standard repertoire would be very surprised to find a section to begin on bar 8 and not on bar 9!

regards

Stig

Den 1/12-2004, kl. 23.17, skrev [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

At 7:19 PM -0500 11/30/04, dhbailey wrote:
Now I understand -- why not just have the 2 regions?

I can't figure out how to accomplish what you're asking without either 2 regions or one region defined to start in the second measure as measure 1 and a 0 added as an expression.

Sorry I can't offer you better help! :-(

David

The basic problem here seems to be a client who thinks it's logical to have a measure zero. It's no more logical than to have a page zero in a book, or a year zero in our calendar. The human mind doesn't work that way. Looks like anything you do to satify her will have to be a kludge.


John

In film music this happens quite often and Dan is right. It has to be the exact same way in all of the parts as it is in the score just as the composer has it. Time is so precious on a scoring stage and overtime is a bad thing...very expensive. So the fewer questions there are, the faster things go. Even something perceived as trivial as this by some can hang a session up. All the conductor would have to say is "4 Free (clix) to bar zero" (or perhaps 3 Free for example if the zero bar is a pickup bar) and if there is no bar zero...well, then trying to tell 80 plus people what it should be....


Click tracks are generated in different ways by different composers too so whatever works for them is what is used...this translates to the page in different ways.

Copying for Film music is a different animal than traditional engraving. Things aren't always done in a traditional way...sometimes it's more utilitarian. It has to be on the page in a very clear way, has to be accurate. These amazing session players are sight reading everything too. I still get blown away by them. So whatever the copyists can do to make it easy for the players to read, with as little confusion as possible, is what is best even if a few traditional engraving rules are broken from time to time. And if it makes sense to the composer and music editor...that is what is done :-)

-K










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