On 29 Dec 2004 at 16:44, Dean M. Estabrook wrote:

> Very interesting ... I was unaware of the complex relationship between
> composer/arr./orchestrator. Now I'm thinking, did any of the "Great"
> composers farm out their work  to orchestrators, e.g., Beethoven,
> Mozart, etc..?

I'm unaware of any completed works of Mozart in which he did not do 
the orchestration.

His method of writing was quite systematic, and based in Italian 
practice. He wrote first the bass line and the first violin, which, 
in the Italian style, was the top line of his orchestral score. He 
then filled in the orchestration in a second pass.

Of course, sometimes he'd fill in some of the orchestration on the 
first pass, but this was basically the way it was done.

It was so clear that the publisher Andr� printed a score of the 
overture to Don Giovanni that was in two colors of ink, black and 
red, that showed the two layers, with black being the first layer, 
red being the 2nd pass for orchestration.

(it's actually a bit more complicated than that in the original MS, 
in that there seem to have been multiple pens used in the 
orchestration pass, to a lesser degree than in the original skeleton 
score, but it's still pretty clear that the was an initial full pass, 
then additional passes to fill in)

The only case I can think of where Mozart had help (other than the 
complicated situation with the Requiem, which was obviously not his 
usual practice, since he generally didn't compose while dead) was in 
secco recitatives, not all of which he wrote. I believe that most of 
the secco recits in La Clemenza di Tito are not by Mozart, though 
they were, of course, considered by him to be satisfactory enough to 
have been used in performance.

-- 
David W. Fenton                        http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
David Fenton Associates                http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc


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