On 5 Feb 2005 at 15:06, Ken Moore wrote:

> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> owainsutton.co.uk writes:
> 
> >And Schoenberg *didn't* transform the Wagnerian influence out of
> >recognition?
> 
> If you follow his development you can see the transformation.  If you
> start with a serial work, it is easy to miss the connection. . . .

For me, the immediate predecessor always seemed to me to be to 
*Brahms*, not Wagner. Verkl�rte Nacht seems to me to follow straight 
on from late Brahms, and Schoenberg's extensions to tonality then 
follow from that point, into 12-tone tonality.

Wagner doesn't seem to me to have much to do with it!

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David W. Fenton                        http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
David Fenton Associates                http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc


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