On 25 Feb 2005 at 10:48, shirling & neueweise wrote:

> the similarities in functioning are far greater than the differences,

I disagree with this. The fact that both use blocks of texts is a 
trivial similarity. Everything *else* about the two is completely 
different, and *should* remain different.

Mixing all text blocks and text expressions into a single dialog 
makes no sense to me at all for placing either expressions or text 
blocks into a score (I hardly ever re-use text blocks -- they entered 
once and that's that, whereas most text expressions get repeatedly re-
used throughout a score). But for *editing* all text as a group 
(e.g., to set fonts for a group of expressions/text blocks), having 
them all in one dialog *does* sound attractive.

So, the ideal world for me would be to have the "all text blocks" 
dialog added, which would allow selection of multiple text blocks and 
the application of properties to the selected group, but then to 
leave the text expression dialog as it is, with the exception of:

> and as long as there are two separate tools the possibility that one
> will be serviced in a given version and not the other, as happened in
> F2004, exists.   it's only a small detail, but is nonetheless
> indicative of the non-sense of separation of the tools: calling up the
> same line spacing dialogue box in the text tool is done with cmd-sh-L
> but in the expression tool with cmd-L (mac).

That's just a mistake. In a properly designed program, text editing 
wherever it's needed would use exactly the same UI in all contexts 
(with features inappropriate for a particular context either absent 
or disabled). I have no quibble with that idea.

But that is subsidiary to the organization of UI for *using* the text 
blocks, which I don't see any reason major re-organization.

Elimination of the distinction between expressions and articulations 
*is* something that would make sense to me, as long as the different 
capabilities that presently reside in different tools are all 
available in the new combined tool.

Of course, it does raise a problem for me: in my repertory, "f" for 
forte is most often used as a dynamic marking (play loud from this 
point until the next dynamic mark) but also in the same piece can be 
used as a dynamic mark (this particular note should be accented), 
where the second type is more like a sforzando. This happens in early 
Beethoven and in other Viennese music of the period through about the 
1820s. If I had a "dynamic f" and an "articulation f" both in the 
same dialog, there'd have to be some visual method of distinguishing 
them, or it would be a real pain to use.

But I'm definitely against an combination of the text block tool with 
other tools if the separate tools for using were to be eliminated.

-- 
David W. Fenton                        http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
David Fenton Associates                http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc

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