On 25 Feb 2005 at 14:08, shirling & neueweise wrote:

> From: David W. Fenton
> >So, the ideal world for me would be to have the "all text blocks"
> >dialog added, which would allow selection of multiple text blocks and
> >the application of properties to the selected group, but then to
> >leave the text expression dialog as it is, with the exception of:
> 
> such editing should also then be possible for a sequence of text
> expressions, so that instead of changing ALL instances of 12pt
> palatino to 12pt times (via change font command) the user can select a
> discrete list of Texts in the Text List to which this change is
> applied. . . .

When I said "allow selection of multiple text blocks" I meant by 
mouse, which takes care of what you asked for. Standard listbox 
behavior on Windows is SHIFT-CLICK highlights contiguous lists, CTRL-
CLICK highlights an individual item, non-contiguous or not. So that 
would take care of what you've asked for (which was my intent in 
wording it in that fashion).

> . . .  sorry i've forgotten who mentioned it (noel?), but someone
> did wish for the possibility to edit a group of text blocks.

That's precisely what I described, and, I believe, the only possible 
benefit from having a dialog that shows all instances of all text in 
a file.

> >If I had a "dynamic f" and an "articulation f" both in the same
> >dialog, there'd have to be some visual method of distinguishing them,
> >or it would be a real pain to use.
> 
> there is a comment field containing info unique to the Text now, so
> you could write "art." beside one, and "dyn." beside the other, or
> "above" for the "espressivo" appearing above the staff, and "below"
> for the one between the piano staves (attached to the RH).   the
> placement is a problem, since it appears to the right of the Text in
> the Text List, longer expressions cover the info, a (visual) design
> flaw, but the possibility is already there (F2005, maybe it was
> already in 2004?).

To me, it would be much better for items marked to behave like 
expressions to be one color and items acting as articulations to be 
another color (as I now have expressions and articulations displaying 
in the score). That's a lot more "visual" than text, and also 
requires no work on my part. If it's a property of the item (i.e., 
expression-like performance effect vs. articulation-like performance 
effect), I shouldn't need to manually add text to be able to 
distinguish them.

> >But I'm definitely against an combination of the text block tool with
> >other tools if the separate tools for using were to be eliminated.
> 
> i'm not proposing that any of the current functionality be removed.

That wasn't clear to me from any of the discussion, which all seemed 
to revolve around the idea of completely collapsing multiple 
functions into a single one.

I understand why note and score expressions are no longer separate 
tools, but I still get tripped up by it all the time, and have to 
redo things. That is, I'm not entirely happy with the elimination of 
the score expressions tool.

But I suspect I'm in a very small minority on that score.

-- 
David W. Fenton                        http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
David Fenton Associates                http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc

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