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Greetings all,
mailing list newbie here. Glad to have found this.
The latest version of Finale I am familiar with is 2002, having refused to upgrade beyond that until they fixed some of the basic notational problems in Finale that always seemed to get overlooked -- the eternal problems with tuplet placement, hairpins, disappearing measures, etc -- in favor of "composer's assistant" nonsense. As someone who looks at these programs largely as notational tools, I got frustrated. In any case, I stuck it out with 2002 until recently, when I was finally convinced by friends to try Sibelius. I've been working with version 3.1.3 for about 2 months.
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Anyway: I'm wondering if I can get some feedback on where things stand with Finale 2005 as regards the many problems I am familiar with in F2002, and I'm wondering what the NEW frustrations might be with 2005 (again, as regards notation -- I do not use these programs' composing tools or sound-file generating tools.) At this point I'd considering upgrading if I thought that 2005 was honestly better than 2002.

I'm in a position similar to you, regarding my requirements. I use Finale as a tool to created scores, and only that. Playback et al is of no interest to me.


If 2002 is the last version you've tried, you'll find some important improvements - in particular tuplets are better (but still not great). Browsing this list will show up particular gripes with other tools, such as text blocks etc. The improved Expression tool in 2005 is saving me huge amounts of time - alignments of expressions are now automated (and that automation is fully adjustable), so things that I used to waste time on getting looking 'just so' can now be predetermined.

I guess the problem that we 'serious notators' face is that we're a tiny minority of Finale users, and Finale users are one small section of the market for notation software. For MakeMusic to spend time sorting the things we'd like to see improved means taking time away from the development of what appear to us to be frivolous extras, but actually function as selling-points for the software.
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