On Mar 2, 2005, at 4:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Greetings all,
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mailing list newbie here. Glad to have found this.
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The latest version of Finale I am familiar with is 2002, having refused to upgrade beyond that until they fixed some of the basic notational problems in Finale that always seemed to get overlooked -- the eternal problems with tuplet placement,
Tuplets are greatly improved with 2005. Still a couple of small issues with the number placement, especially with large intervals under the tuplet, but tuplets that start with a rest or a low note align WAY better than before.
hairpins,
What did you see wrong with the hairpins? They behave perfectly well as far as I can see. I use TG Tools plugins to help align everything, so maybe I'm spoiled. Automatic expression placement is new and fantastic as well.
disappearing measures,
I've never seen that. What is that? I have occasionally seen measures APPEAR to vanish, but that is usually because I had a multi-measure rest where I later entered notes, and forgot to turn off the rest.
etc --�in favor of "composer's assistant" nonsense. As someone who looks at these programs largely as notational tools, I got frustrated. In any case, I stuck it out with 2002 until recently, when I was finally convinced by friends to try Sibelius. I've been working with version 3.1.3 for about 2 months.
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Certainly things are superior in Sibelius when it comes to the user interface and certain formatting issues (at least in comparison to Finale 2002). But at the end of the day I am most concerned about what comes out of my printer, and Sibelius doesn't even begin to approach the professional look that I can get�(after much hair-pulling) out of Finale. And I am frustrated again, because the response in the Sibelius forums is constantly "no, you can't do that (yet)."
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Anyway: I'm wondering if I can get some feedback on where things stand with Finale 2005 as regards the many problems I am familiar with in F2002, and I'm wondering what the NEW frustrations might be with 2005 (again, as regards notation -- I do not use these programs' composing tools or�sound-file generating tools.)�At this point I'd considering upgrading if I thought that 2005 was honestly better than 2002.
You sound like a fairly serious user. Many of the issues with Finale's built-in functionality are addressed with 3rd-party plugins, some of which will no doubt make you clap your hands and giggle like a child when you first use them (that was my reaction, in any case). They are definitely worth the shareware price, and the time it will take to learn them, though you can try them out first for free. This list is a great resource as well. Many times when I have been frustrated by some seeming lack of functionality, someone on this list has just the trick to make it doable.
If you have specific questions, we can answer them.
Christopher
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