Robert
What I am refering to is the separate voices/parts included within a system. These 'staves' once optimized can be moved either with the top (all the same staff within the piece) or with the bottom box (the staff within a single system). My problem is that when I adjust a single staff within a single system, How can I get that single system with all of its staves back to default without having to screw up the entire layout by applying the default measures to the entire piece via page - ie Respace Staves seems to be total document oriented. As I said in another msg in this thread, it is a problem that comes up systematically for me when I am having to work with choral/instrumental pieces, and dont want to have a reduction that needs a magnifying glass to read when the piece is printed on A4.
I never touch the page in percentages, only systems and staves.
On Sun, 15 May 2005 13:40:17 -0500, Robert Patterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'm not sure what you are talking about. Optimization can be applied to any number of systems from zero to all, and every combination in between. The only "default" optimization I'm aware of is Scroll View spacing, and removing optimization from a particular systems restores the system to Scroll View spacing.
My top/bottom system margins are always zero and also the distance to the first staff is always zero, but of course that is a personal preference. I find that it provides the greatest flexibility in the work I do. I separate the systems using "Distance Between Systems". An incredibly useful tool for doing this is JW Space Systems, a free plugin.
I repeat the first sentence: I really am not sure what you are talking about. But it seems you may still be using page scaling instead of system scaling. Before ca. Fin01, the best practice for page layout was page scaling. But starting with whichever version it was, system scaling became much better practice. It does require a different way of thinking and working than before, however, and retrofitting older files is not recommended.
Better, how?
Precise margins on every page, irrespective of percent reduction. (In, e.g., orchestral scores, different systems/pages may have different reductions.)
Easier system layout on pages. (It is much easier to get the systems you want on a page, then use JW Space Systems to spread them out evenly.)
No need for fixed font sizes on page titles. (Pages are always 100%.) This allows you subsequently to scale a page up or down, for example, to print a miniature score.
But, perhaps you are already using system scaling. From your descriptions of what you are doing, I can't tell for certain. In any case, anyone who is wedded to page scaling may certainly continue to work that way.
David W. Fenton wrote:
On 15 May 2005 at 9:11, Robert Patterson wrote:
RegoR wrote:
Does anybody know if there is a way to revert back to <default> system spacing for a single staff on a single page that has been moved. When the staves are moved individually, I see nothing anywhere that indicates the height or distance moved, like for example one sees when one moves lyrics up and down to accomodate a low note.
Er, no, that does *not* revert to the default spacing -- it changes the formerly-optimized system's margins to replicate the same spacing it had when optimized and dragged.The easiest way would be to turn off optimization and turn it back on (using any of the several available methods.) This will revert to the "default" (actually, Scroll View spacing) for sure.
I've found that in parts, I don't find optimized staff movement to be the best way to adjust things. Instead, I think it's better to change the vertical margins, as this is something you can do for a single system or a group of systems without effecting others. The reason for that is that I find there are two competing layout problems, fitting music onto the page without crowding the top and bottom margins, and then also adjustments to individual staves to accommodate notes/expressions/etc. in extreme rangers. The ability to adjust multiple systems at one time in a quantifiable and systematic manner that isn't really available with positioning optimized systems.If you do a lot with optimization, Tobias Giesen's Staff List Manager plugin (part of TGTools) is absolutely indispensable. It displays and allows you to edit the relative evpu spacing on each staff. It allows you to add or remove staves individually. And, it allows you copy an optimization on one system to any number of other systems.
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