Hi Matthew,

There is no retail AGP version of the Radeon 9200 Mac Edition -- the retail Mac card is PCI only. You may be able to get a flashed PC version of the card on eBay, but that's a risky proposition. In fact, I very much doubt Versavision would work on a flashed PC Radeon 9200 AGP.

Also, getting an AGP video card on any recent Power Mac requires you to *replace* your existing video card, whereas the PCI version works *in addition to* your existing video card -- an important consideration, especially if you only need screen rotation on a secondary display.

ATI have never supported Versavision (screen rotation) on OEM cards, only boxed retail cards. That's why Apple is supporting the feature directly in 10.4.

Quartz Extreme (or lack thereof) should not have *that* much impact on things like menu speed. You can test for yourself, though, as there is a widely used hack to enable Quartz Extreme support on the PCI bus:

http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/8979

I have also heard that there are (at least for the moment) significant performance problems with rotated displays. I suspect that the the slow menus, etc., you are seeing are much more a function of general screen-rotation performance issues -- I'm not sure lack of Quartz Extreme has much to do with it. But try the PCI Extreme hack and see for yourself.

- Darcy
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On 22 May 2005, at 5:57 PM, Matthew Hindson Fastmail Account wrote:

Darcy wrote:

At any rate, the retail ATI Radeon 9200 Mac Edition supports screen rotation through ATI's Versavision software even if the OS doesn't support it, and it's not *that* expensive ($125 or so).

Just a word of advice - if you buy the 9200, just make sure that you buy the AGP version, as the PCI version with all the bells and whistles unfortunately doesn't use Quartz Extreme acceleration. This is a problem if you're using a big screen - the menus etc. are glacial, as I found out from bitter experience!



Matthew


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