On 23 Jun 2005, at 1:09 AM, Eric Dannewitz wrote:

but who even owns a C-melody now?

Scott Robinson. He even has a record where he only plays C-melody. (It's really good, too.)

http://home.earthlink.net/~smoulden/scott/melody.html

But yeah, clearly it's a niche instrument.

I'd say Tuba, French Horn, Fender Rhodes,

GPO Jazz/Big Band already has Rhodes piano.

Mallets,

It already has vibes.

 acoustic/electric guitar.

It already has 2 electric guitars (no acoustic).

Did you look at the website before posting this?  The info is here:

http://www.garritan.com/jazz.html

Honestly, there are Hammond Organ programs out there. I don't think we really need it, and I think it's more common in a Jazz Band setting to have a Fender Rhodes than a B3.

There are *lots* of classic jazz recordings with B3 -- like ferinstance, Larry Young's _Unity_, with Joe Henderson and Elvin Jones. That said, I agree with you. You can get good B3 samples elsewhere and I'm not exactly broken up about the lack of B3 organ. I was just listing some instruments that would make more sense -- a *lot* more sense -- than subcontrabass saxophone.

Jazz violin?

Uh, yes.  More common than sopranino saxophone, right?

Solo Voice?

Ever heard Kenny Wheeler's big band recordings? Or Maria Schneider's? Or John Hollenbeck's? Anyway, I realize voice is far beyond the scope of the library, but basic male and female oohs and aahs would still be roughly a thousand times more useful than mezzo-soprano saxophone.

Remember, I wasn't listing stuff I thought *should* be included, just stuff that made more sense than some of what *was* included.

I think the library needs to cover the basics.

I agree. My point was that the library covers a bunch of obscure saxophones *instead* of some of the basics. Remember, before Chuck intervened, they hadn't planned on including bass clarinet, even! (Thankfully, that's been corrected.) If you're going to start throwing in a bunch of extras, why not start with the most useful extras?

Trumpets with all the mutes. Saxophones (soprano, alto, tenor, bari), and saxophone doubles (piccolo, flute, alto flute, Bb Clarinet, Bb Bass Clarinet), trombones with all the mutes, Tuba, standard jazz drum set, a good acoustic piano, a good fender rhodes, an acoustic guitar, an electric guitar, acoustic and electric bass, and vibes. I think all the other stuff is not really necessary.

Check the website. I think your list is a reasonable one, but from it the GPO Jazz/Big Band is missing tuba, mallets on the drum set, and acoustic guitar. Instead, they included a bunch of saxophones nobody actually owns. It's kind of cool, in a geeky way, but it's terrible marketing. People are bound to say (as I did) -- "Why on earth did you include C-melody saxophone but not [instrument X]?"

- Darcy
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