On 6 Jul 2005 at 0:50, Johannes Gebauer wrote:

> David W. Fenton schrieb:
> > Do post 2K3 versions of Finale fix the grace note spacing problems
> > that have plagued Finale forever?
> > 
> > I just can't fathom why two parts with the same pattern of rhythm
> > and grace notes should be spaced completely differently. I'm not
> > even talking about the poor handling of accidentals in grace notes,
> > just the vertical alignment of the same rhythm in different parts.
> > 
> > Has any part of this been fixed in newer versions?
> 
> Imo, it's been changed, but hasn't been fixed. There are more 
options
> now, but unfortunately not the ones needed.

In terms of results (not added settings), do grace notes of the same 
note values in staves having the same reduction get identical 
spacing?

My problems happen mostly in my piano quartets, where the string 
parts are 75%. When the violin and viola have the same rhythm with 
grace notes, the spacing in the two of them is not identical. Indeed, 
in general, the viola gets compressed more than the unspaced natural 
settings (i.e., if I delete the spacing adjustments after applying 
spacing tool 4, the grace notes in the viola move further from the 
main note, not closer to it).

There are also problems with spacing of the reduced grace notes vs. 
the 100% grace notes in the piano part if there are accidentals in 
either the 100% or 75% parts, but those are rare enough that I can 
adjust them manually.

It's the unison grace notes in the strings that make me crazy.

And the bizarre thing is that I just went through a score where the 
same rhythm sometimes spaced properly in one measure and then, with 
the same rhythm in another measure later on, didn't space properly.

It means lots of manual nudging at the last stage of score formatting 
(so I don't end up losing it in basic score layout spacing).

There are way too many such things (like with 2nds in dotted rhythms 
with voice 2, or with seconds with accidentals in layer 2) and it 
would be nice if some of these, at least, were getting fixed, version 
by version.

And adding more options is not a fix -- it's not the options that are 
the problem, it's that music that should be treated identically is 
*not* being treated that way.

-- 
David W. Fenton                        http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
David Fenton Associates                http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc

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