At 08:39 AM 7/12/05 +0100, Owain Sutton wrote: > > >Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: >> At 10:20 PM 7/11/05 -0400, Aaron Sherber wrote: >> >>>There's some other message archive subscribed as well. Frankly, as >>>long as SHSU isn't providing a proper searchable archive of their >>>own, I see this as a good thing. >> >> Not I. I subscribed to a private list. > >I didn't. Not in the way you mean it: > >"This is a private list, which means that the list of members is not >available to non-members" - http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > >Nothing about the contents of messages not being available to non-members.
>From the same page: "To see the collection of prior postings to the list, visit the Finale Archives. (The current archive is only available to the list members.)" This is not about my email address. This is about my content. I did not expect a public archive, or else I'd be posting to the web forum. The extent of the 'contract' for posting is on the list info site, and nowhere is a public presentation of our postings suggested. There are several such "services" that post our comments publicly. More of these are cropping up, such as http://www.mail-archive.com/ and http://www.archivum.info/ I did not release my posts to the wider public, and nowhere did I give permission to do so via the list subscription page. It's incredible that the program(s) we talk about have copy protection all over them (with many folks on this list supporting that), yet our private intellectual property is stolen for public posting to the benefit of various website owners without permission or payment, perhaps even by list a list member. As far as I'm concerned, this is straight out intellectual property theft. I've received a response fro the opensubscriber.com website owner, who claims this list was subscribed to his robot. How did this happen? Who is our list owner these days? Or was this done by an individual on the list? Yes, I post my scores and parts and music and photos and essays on my websites, but I'm very vigorous about chasing down those who steal that material and repost it elsewhere. All I usually ask is permission and credit (except for commercial sites, which I bill). My posts are no different. Can someone shed some light on how these outside sites were subscribed to this list, and whether I should pursue having this material taken down? At 07:17 AM 7/12/05 -0400, Aaron Sherber wrote: >I'm not sure what the distinction is here. Anyone in the world can >currently join this list. Once they join, they can in 5 minutes >download the entire list archives. They can also download the entire >list of subscribers. So how is this different from OpenSubscriber? Private reading and writing is the purpose of the list. Reposting, for profit or not, is theft of content. With all the discussions we've had here on copy protection, that distinction should be clear. Dennis _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list [email protected] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
