On 15 Jul 2005 at 0:02, Darcy James Argue wrote: > On 14 Jul 2005, at 11:23 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: > > > My point is that Finale only allows a range of notes. If you start > > on beat 1 and end on beat 3, beat 2 is included. Sibelius allows you > > to select beat 1 and beat 3 without selecting beat 2. This is a > > useful feature. > > But David, the point Tyler and I have been trying to make is that once > you've selected beat 1 and beat 3 in Sib, the articulation *still* has > not been applied. So even though Finale doesn't have non-contiguous > selection, it doesn't matter since applying an articulation is > *exactly as fast* as simply selecting the notes. > > Here are the steps in Sib. > > 1) Drag-enclose to select Beat 1. > 2) Shift-drag-enclose to select Beat 3. > 3) Apply the articulation.
No. Ctrl-click note 1. Ctrl-click note 2. Apply the articulation. > Here are the steps in Finale: > > 1) Drag-enclose Beat 1 while holding a metatool. > 2) Drag-enclose Beat 3 without letting go of the metatool. To me, holding the metatool and clicking is really not significantly different from selecting a notes and then clicking the keypad. The difference is simultaneity. With only two notes involved, the comparison is pretty equal, but if there's more, Sibelius is clearly quicker. Take my original example of 8 eighths and you want a stacatto on 3, 4 and 7, 8. In Sibelius, I can ctrl-click on any randomly chosen selection of notes and apply an articulation to all of them. The more notes you want to apply it to at once, and the less of a recurring pattern there is to those notes, the more the Sibelius method gets better. Take for instance, a passage in 12/8 where I wanted a stacatto on the last 8th of each beat. Finale basically requires a metatool click for each individual note, Sibelius a ctrl-click for each note. But once selected, I can do anything to those notes that I like. I do this kind of thing in Finale's MIDI window all the time. When I'm changing the lengths of grace notes (to make them on the beat) and, say, I have a passage with a sequence of a figure with a grace note in it, I select all the grace notes by shift clicking each of them, then going to the menu to set the ending point. Then I shift click the notes they are attached to and set the starting point to make room for the grace note. This is much easier than doing all of them separately. Likewise with passages of articulations where I want to apply them in a batch, I think the Sibelius way is going to be easier for me. Not *much* easier -- the Finale way is pretty fast (i.e., just metatool clicking each note in turn) -- but easier in a way that I have missed many times in using Finale. It's a selection method I've *wanted* in Finale even before I knew Sibelius offered it. -- David W. Fenton http://www.bway.net/~dfenton David Fenton Associates http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc All non-quoted content (c) David W. Fenton, all rights reserved _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list [email protected] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
