Hi Mark,

Here's the problem as stated in my original post:

    Try this:

    -- Enter a chord in the treble clef consisting of F sharp, G sharp up a
    second, C sharp up a fourth, built up from the top line F sharp.  Show
    all three accidentals.

    -- Go to the "Accidental Mover Tool" in the "Special Tools" tool palette
    and click in the measure to bring up handles on the accidentals.

    -- Select the handle for the F sharp and nudge once, either left or
    right.  When I do this the F sharp and the G sharp swap position........

    Undo that action and try on each of the other two accidentals.  A nudge
    on the G sharp produces an expected action; nudging the C sharp moves
    the G sharp into a conflicting position.

Lower that example an octave and the first nudge produces a different, more
severe problem, the difference seemingly predicated on stem direction and
which note in the second is displaced.

This is a pain to deal with, a pretty good impression of inconsistent and,
ultimately, unacceptable, no matter how logical it is according to Finale's
algorithms.

Thanks for pointing out this function of the clear key; I wasn't aware of
it's use here.  

Don Hart


on 7/20/05 5:28 AM, Mark D Lew at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> On Jul 20, 2005, at 1:19 AM, Don Hart wrote:
> 
>> Did you recreate the examples I originally offered?
> 
> No.  You'll have to tell me what they are again.  I don't save old
> messages here.  I'm not sure I even saw the beginning of this thread.
> 
>>  In some instances one
>> nudge plops an accidental directly on top of another.
> 
> Sure, that makes perfect sense.  If you nudge the innermost accidental,
> you've removed it from Finale's view so it's going to put another one
> in the innermost position.
> 
>>  And the "anchoring"
>> nudge, as you call it, doesn't undo anything.  You have to edit your
>> way out
>> of the problem.
> 
> If you've got a group of accidentals and you want to move the inner one
> only, anchor the outer ones first.
> 
> One thing I didn't mention. You know that the clear key resets an
> accidental to zero, right?  Just clear them all and you're back to how
> you started.
> 
> mdl
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