On 17 Aug 2005 at 14:42, Phil Daley wrote:

> At 8/17/2005 01:51 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
> 
> > No. My Computer is an Explorer view without the Folder Pane. You can
> > make it look like what you get when you run Explorer.exe by going to
> > the View menu and choosing to display the Folder Pane (under the
> > poorly-named Explorer Bar menu choice). 
> >
> > I mean what you get when you open Windows Explorer, as it is given on 
> > the Start Menu of every version of Windows since Win95, and what you
> > get when you launch Explorer.exe and what you get when you hit 
> > Windows Key-E. 
> >
> > That is, the standard Windows Explorer view.
> 
> Not on my system.
> 
> You are misunderstanding.
> 
> You can set the default view to explore, not open.
> 
> When I type "explorer" in run or click the "explorer" icon or hit
> windows "key-e", I always get the 2 pane view.

That's exactly what I said.

My Computer (the icon on the desktop) doesn't open with the folder 
pane (though you can easily get it back).

The other three methods of launching Windows Explorer have the 2-pane 
view.

Which is EXACTLY WHAT I SAID.

That 2-pane view that you are calling the default is what I was 
talking about all along. You're the one who threw in the My Computer 
red herring.

And I'm criticizing the hierarchical view that is in the folder pane 
because it groups at the same level in the hierarchy things that are 
not by any stretch of the imagination the same things (except insofar 
as Windows Explorer's presentation forces you to treat them as though 
they belong at the same level of the hierarchy). 

I made this criticism when Win95 came out (and I wasn't by any means 
the only person to level it), and it has been worsened by Microsoft's 
practice of throwing more and more things into that top level of the 
hierarchy.

-- 
David W. Fenton                        http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
David Fenton Associates                http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc

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