Once you have gotten the majority of the music spacing as you want it,
you can turn off the Automatic Music Spacing. Then use the MassEdit
tool to select one or two measures (in the case of your "Straight"
example, two measures) and then apply spacing for just those two
measures, turning OFF Avoid Lyric Collisions, and adjust those things
manually if you need further adjusting.
It might be a pain, but you'll probably have fewer places to adjust this
way than if you had left Avoid Lyric Collisions off for the entire project.
Hope this helps.
David
Lon Price wrote:
So I finished this project, 24 tunes, most of them at least 4 pages in
length. I had to go with "avoid lyric collisions," because the
alternative would have created too many collisions for me to deal with.
But using "avoid collisions" created some ugly results. Here's an
example: the word "straight" under an 8th note at the end of a measure,
tied to a note in the next measure. The left side of the 8th note is
5/8 of an inch to the left of the right barline. That looks really
bad. One thing that I noticed: all syllables with word extensions are
aligned left (instead of center) by default. When I change the
alignment to center, it seems to help. But is that acceptable? Are
syllables with word extensions SUPPOSED to be aligned left? Centering
looks better to me, but what do I know? I like Cleveland. ;-) (I just
looked in a Hal Leonard Beatles songbook, and most syllables with word
extensions are aligned left, but some are centered. And I didn't find
any of this unsightly extra spacing with tied notes, so whoever did this
book either used a program that handles this issue, or else they got rid
of the extra space manually.)
I also tried doing one of the (shorter) tunes in Sibelius 4, and you're
right, Sibelius does seem to handle this tied-note-lyric issue better
than Finale. I wonder why. I couldn't use Sibelius for this project,
though, because I just don't know that program well enough to get the
output to look the way I want it. I find it MUCH easier to change
things like staff spacing in Finale. Plus, in Sibelius, I can't figure
out how to create measure expressions that are different sizes and
different fonts. It appears to me that all measure expressions have to
be the same size and font.
Anyway, I hope that this tied-note-lyric issue can be addressed by MM in
the future, because as it is today, this behavior is unacceptable, and
fixing it is a lot of extra work.
Lon
On Oct 1, 2005, at 11:10 AM, greghamilton wrote:
It's funny you should bring this up, I recently noticed this problem
with lyrics in Finale ( most of my jobs are instrumental music). I
agree, it's annoying and an incorrect engraving practice for lyric
protractions. So I called Finale tech. support and spoke to Carla. Her
conclusion was there isn't any global setting to correct this and that
manual tweaking would be the only solution. Also said she would put it
in as a feature request. FYI, Sibelius does a much better job of
handling lyric protractions.
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