On 19 Nov 2005 at 13:03, dhbailey wrote:

> Chuck Israels wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> 
> > 
> > In any case, this seems unusually buggy 2006 behavior, and MM should
> >  address it (among other things), but if the cure is this simple, at
> >  least we can control it.
> 
> There is no doubt about it in my mind:  Since the program knows where
> to STORE the darned temp files, it knows where it should DELETE them
> from when it exits.
> 
> That it does not do this each and every time is unforgiveable on the
> programmers' part.  It's not like it's rocket science to do that.
>
> Could I do it?  No, I don't understand C++ programming (or whatever
> language they're using these days).

Oh, give me a break! You don't need to be a programmer to clean up 
Finale's temp files. Just launch Finale with this batch file 
(replacing the path to Finale with the appropriate path):

@ECHO OFF
DEL %TEMP%\FIN*.TMP
CALL "D:\Programs\Finale2003\FINALE.EXE"

You want to delet the files *before* you start Finale, as Finale 
takes a moment after exiting to delete its files, but what you want 
is for the temp files to be gone when Finale starts, so it should be 
sufficient.

> But then I'm not charging what they're charging for a program which
> should operate smoothly without slowing the entire machine down.

I don't see major problems with Finale temp files using WinFin 2K3. 
I've never seen major problems with any of them. Yes, the files tend 
to litter my temp folder if I don't clean it out every now and again, 
but so do Real Audio and Windows Media temp files, and temp files 
from any number of other programs. I see a lot of PCs in my business 
and one of the things I always do is check the temp folders and clean 
them up. Well, none of those computers are running Finale (most are 
running nothing but Microsoft programs) but nearly all of them have 
temp folders just filled with orphaned files (and most of those from 
Microsoft programs).

Yes, it's better to clean them up since they can potentially cause 
performance problems when there are extremely large numbers of files 
in the folder, but only seldom does a program actually have problems 
based on trying to re-use out-of-date temp data, and most of those 
are very poorly designed and often don't depend particularly heavily 
on temp files (unlike Finale).

> The hard part will be that until you can find and delete those old
> Temp file directories, your hard drive clutter will simply grow and
> grow and grow until you need to put in a new one simply because Finale
> couldn't figure out how to delete tmp files when the session ended.

This is malarkey. Finale deletes its own temp files at least 75% or 
more of the time. I haven't cleaned up my Finale temp files in quite 
a while, yet, when I started my experimenting, there were none there.

> You shouldn't have to change the TEMP folder just to make up for
> Finale programmers' deficiencies.

I don't think there is anything you can actually do to really have an 
effect on the problems we're discussing.

The orphaned temp files are really a very minor nuisance, and they 
can be easily cleaned up with a simple batch file (and on OS X, I'm 
sure it's possible to do the same thing quite easily, though I don't 
know what shell OS X uses by default -- bash?).

-- 
David W. Fenton                        http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
David Fenton Associates                http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc

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