Well, yes, in this case I am an "pen and ink" composer and that's why I'd use a traditional notation software. But I also want realistic rendition, that is as close as possible to real sounds. It's been done, Kontact 2 (the whole package) is very good about it, at least the demos. This is what I'd expect from a notation software rendition wise. In other occasions I am not a "pen and ink" composer, but electronic. But why should I buy 10 packages for what I want to do, when one versatile suite would be sufficient? Of course, I would not expect that the suite do everything. However, I'd expect that it do a good part of it. And I think this is what Dennis is also saying.
John. On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 18:48:03 -0700 Steve Schow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Well indeed it may have a ways further to go...but in my view its the > > closest thing.. But yes... i am more of a traditional composer, > composing film scores and the like...which is at best very early > post-tonal..nothing extravagant. There are a lot of people in my > shoes..and we all consider ourselves to be composers by the way. > ;-) > > Anyway, for this type of composing, I really can't think of a tool > that > is closer to providing the right toolset that we need than finale. > And > I have tried or own a bunch. > > > > Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: > > At 05:44 PM 10/5/06 -0700, Steve Schow wrote: > > > >> These days, Finale actually *IS* the program that has come to > closest to > >> filling this whole. With plugins and notation and Human > playback..it > >> truly is the closest thing to being an ideal composer's tool. > Nothing > >> else is there. > >> > > > > Unfortunately, that's not even the case with Finale, which is what > I meant > > in my previous email. > > > > If you're exclusively a "pen and ink" composer working in 19th > century > > notation, Finale may be close. I'm not of those, nor are thousands > of > > others. About a third of what I write is electroacoustic, for > which I have > > to use several programs and a pretty big chunk of utility audio > (Sonar, > > Audio Mulch, CSound, Cecilia, Coagula, Midimage, Wavesurfer, SMS > Tools, > > Prie, The Voice, ixi modules, AnalogX modules, some 400 VST and > DX > > plugins...). Finale doesn't understand anything at all about that > genre nor > > how to integrated it (even as a sound wave file) into the score. > > > > And the rest of what I do uses post-1920s notation which, although > Finale > > is the best of the programs for doing this, stymies every program > in > > handling it as normal notation -- which it has been for the better > part of > > a century. We end up reverting to graphics. Finale can't even do > staggered > > barlines natively or beaming across barlines without Robert's > plugin or > > make any item stretchable as has been possible in every other > vector-based > > program for years. > > > > I very much appreciate what you say about needing a true > composer's > > toolkit. I'm still waiting for pen-recognition input to Finale, > which would > > beat the pants off any other input method for me, or even > lasso/drag/drop! > > (Every time I think of why I bought Finale in the early 1990s > expecting > > these 'normal' functions would shortly be available...) > > > > Dennis > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Finale mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list [email protected] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
