On 5 Oct 2006 at 22:10, John T Sylvanis wrote:

> I think integration will happen because the market will
> mature one day and then someone will HAVE to make a move to entice
> people to buy the product of their new, epochal, idea which has been
> done by Microsoft 20 years before

You keep citing Microsoft as an example of "integration." 

But that is simply not correct in anything except a superficial 
level.

Word does not include Excel's capabilities. All it allows is the 
embedding of an Excel spreadsheet into a Word document.

The analogy to a notation package and a sequencer is unclear. Finale 
does not store its data as MIDI, so you couldn't just embed an 
existing sequencer into Finale. No sequencer I know of reads Finale 
data files, so that's not going to work, either.

What you're asking for is not integration on the MS model, but the 
incorporation of a whole set of features into Finale that don't fit 
very well with what Finale is.

I think limited sequencing capability in the service of producing 
good playback is a good thing in Finale. A full-fledged sequencer, 
however, makes no sense to me, as that's not the purpose of Finale.

Now, if Finale teamed with the maker of a sequencer such that the 
sequencer's output could be imported into Finale without the current 
problems of MIDI import, such that it would be painless to open the 
sequencer file and convert it to printed notation, that would be 
quite wonderful. But I don't think it would be a MIDI file that would 
be used, as that's inherently too ambiguous to give good results. 

Indeed, I don't see how a sequencer could ever produce data that's 
unambiguous for a notation package without there being some kind of 
notational representation within the sequencer -- after all, MIDI 
doesn't specify flat or sharp.

For my purposes, a few well-chosen revisions and additions to the 
current Finale MIDI tools (including a modern UI) would be all that's 
necessary to give me what's needed to create the playback I need. I 
wonder if there is a large enough audience of Finale users who'd 
benefit from such innovations to make it worth the effort of the 
programmers.

And I also don't think the number of people who work first from a 
sequencer is going to place that high a value on Finale's notational 
capabilities to justify the programming investment to attract their 
interest.

In an ideal world, sure, I'd love a fully integrated sequencer in 
Finale, or, even, hooks between an existing sequencer and Finale so 
that Finale used the sequencer for editing MIDI data and the 
sequencer used Finale for notational output.

But in the real world, I don't don't think MakeMusic has the capital 
to do that. Whether or not Sibelius does is an open question.

-- 
David W. Fenton                    http://dfenton.com
David Fenton Associates       http://dfenton.com/DFA/

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