I've always found it interesting that young children can often groove on music that their older siblings don't consider hip and their parents may not even consider music. Case in point: my youngest brother who never griped about music I was listening to (e.g., Mahler, Webern, Nono) unless someone else was there telling him that he needed to. I also recall a premium cable statio production of Pinocchio (Lainie Kazan was the fairy) whose music, had I not seen the composer's name (and no, I don't remember it) I would've attributed to Stravinsky with some excusrions into Penderecki-like glissandi. Great for it's target audience and anyone open to music as expression period.
Aaron J. Rabushka [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://users.waymark.net/arabushk ----- Original Message ----- From: "João Miguel Pais" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [Finale] OT: John Cage's first national TV appearance (1960) > > >Phil -- in my experience, it's not whether a piece is new or old, but > > simply > > >if it's and <good>. > > > > I agree. But if it's non-tonal, it's not good. > > Oh. What do you have against folk and pre-baroque music? In which terms > are they related to [not-so-]contemporary[-anymore] music, that it brings > a similar reaction in you? When does tonal music stops? Is the tristan > chord already out of limits? Are Petroushka and Le Sacre just garbage? Is > Debussy a psychadelic hippie? > > > > Anything that hurts my ears when I listen to it, I stop listening. > > > Phil, pal, you are my model! That is, you are my anti-model. I'm still > "young", but I hope that my ears and specially my mind never regress to > such a vegetative, petrified state. That I keep eager to experiment new > things, new music, new theatre, art, sights, flavours and smells. Although > one's age rusts the body, it's one's head that rusts itself - in which you > are a master (you are not only a master of music). Whenever I feel tired > or down, I'll always think of you, and that will give me more energy not > to stop. > > > > It seems like a simple concept to me, but I guess a lot of music people > > have much less sensitive ears than I do. > > Funny. I would say the opposite. Your simple-based comments and no urge > whatsoever to engage in a meaningful discussion that goes beyond the level > of "me no likey" or "he's good; he's a terrorist" reveal an enormous lack > of sensitivity, to which I (fortunately) don't often encounter. > > > I don't want to insult you, as my utmost feeling towards you is pity. I'm > sorry that you live in a so closed of a world, where anything that goes a > bit outside the norm ("defy" would be already a too strong of a word) is > simply shoved off, without a chance to even understand what could it be > about - you know, if someone (be it Cage, Pollock, Bach, or even you) gave > his time and effort to create something, and you want to say something > about it, the very least you could do is to even *try* (if that's not too > much to ask) to see if there's anything to it. And if after you *tried* > (and *tried* again) you don't like it, you can say "it's not for me". > Between that and "it's not good" is a giant step, you know? But correct me > if I'm wrong: we would like to know which are your founded, constructed > opinions to Cage's music, Pollock's painting, or anything else - we're all > willing to learn! > > > By the way, JS Bach's music wasn't played almost at all in his last years, > and it pratically disappeared until Mendelsson picked it up later > (Beethoven and Mozart only got to some scores late in their lives). His > contemporaries found it too far-fetched and overfull with counterpoint (a > kind of nowadays Ferneyhough), and they found him already back of his time > (you know, just like a guy "who don't know what current public option is, > [is] out in the dark."), preferring his son's CPE's works. His violin > suites (which apparently he could play - anyone correct me) are obligatory > repertoire in any violinist who wants to live from his bowing nowadays, > were considered not suitable or natural for the instrument. Is that enough > of a hint for you about relativity, need of understanding, and not to > consider yourself as the center of the world? > > > João Miguel Pais > _______________________________________________ > Finale mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list [email protected] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
