At 9:08 PM +0200 6/5/07, shirling & neueweise wrote:

Treble (Alto) recorder when used in an ensemble score uses treble clef with 8 above, ... as a solo instrument, it uses the treble clef and plays at pitch

everything i've seen online suggests to use normal treble clef...?

When alto reads from vocal scores (common in renaissance music), it's notated an octave lower and needs to be read up an octave. Just one of many complications for recorder players, which include having to read from movable C-clefs!

have i understood right that descant and soprano are notated identically (but have different ranges)?

No. Descant and Soprano are the same instrument. Descant is British terminology, Soprano is American. Same with the alto: Treble in Britain, Alto in American. Other languages have their specific terms as well.

is this <http://www.savefile.com/files/783414> correct then (all with C5 indicated for comparison)? click on download (orange at bottom right) to see the file.

Could you please identify "C5"? Is it middle C or the octave above. (Thanks to Yamaha, I think, there are two different systems in use.) And are you indicating absolute sounding pitch?


Recorder Quartet should be added to the ensemble choices.

would that be descant alto tenor bass then? or sop ATB? or are both quite common?

They are identical. And yes, this would be the "normal" SATB recorder quartet. There is also a large consort sounding an octave lower: tenor (in C), bass (in F), greatbass (in C), and contrabass (in F). A gorgeous sound.

The thing to remember is that the recorder skipped the 19th century and the notational conventions that were established in the 19th century, including writing transposed parts. They are always notated at concert pitch, but the specific octave sometimes has to be figured out. And that means that recorder players who play more than one size generally need to learn two sets of fingerings, one for recorders in C and another for recorders in F. Not all that weird, actually. Think of the clarinet. The lower register is "in F" (that is, the 7-fingered note is written F, sounding Eb) but the upper register is "in C" (the 7-fingered note written C, sounding Bb).

John


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