In response to my comment,
Then there's the question of other revenue streams from the same product. Both S~ and Finale bring in money from the flagship product, but in addition to this, MakeMusic has the additional revenue from the other members of the family, for which S~ does not have analogous products.
Christopher Smith wrote:
Not exactly true. Our school uses their Auralia ear training software, which is quite good for basic training (except for jazz rhythms). I can recommend it for music schools. I think they have other things out there, but I am not familiar with them.
But I would note that it wasn't the Auralia ear training software I was thinking about in referring to "other members of the [software] family, but rather Finale Notepad, Finale Songwriter, Finale Printmusic and Finale Allegro. Since I haven't the data necessary to hold an informed opinion I am willing to concede that S~'s educational version may be analogous to Allegro, but as nearly as I can tell, S~ has no analogue to the other three:
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Dennis responded to my comments by writing:
The low price being offered only for the "competitive upgrade", I don't see what there is to wonder about. Sibelius is simply trying to attract new users, mainly Finale users, obviously.
To which I would note that I understand the "why" of the competitive upgrade. I just not sure that there is not more to the story. It's pretty much standard practice in marketing production software that one offers a special price to existing users to upgrade to a later version, and that one offers the upgrade price to users who can prove that they use substantially equivalent products. As far as I know, it is _not_ standard practice to offer to sell your product to user's of competitive products at half the price you sell the product to your own user base. I can't speak for any current S~ users, but for my part, finding out that MakeMusic had such an offer like that for S~ users would irritate me mightily.

My comment that MakeMusic had dropped support for Plug-in development may be too strong. I'm basing this on my memory of what Robert Patterson wrote to the list about a year or two ago, and may well be overstating the case, as I wrote the comment without researching it before I did so. In preparing this rebuttal, I did a search of the download section of Finale's website, and found that the latest Plug-in development kit available is for FIN 2K. My working hypothesis is that S~ used the PDK to learn about internal architecture of Finale early on, and that as a consequence, MakeMusic and it's predecessors reduced the emphasis on plug-ins shifting to Finale scripts, and dropping support for the ETF format.

To conclude my clarifications and rebuttals, in response again to Christopher Smith's comment
For all we know, Finale is going to come roaring out of the gates in 2009 with its best product yet, which it has been working on for years. But they play such a close hand that we never know what is up next.
My perception of Finale is as a series of "subsystems" [My term, not theirs, as far as I know], of which I posit there are several: "-mover", "input", "data management", "shape", "text", &c. My perception has further been that MakeMusic has been dramatically recasting Finale subsystem by subsystem. After the work to support the new MAC OS, then the mover subsystem was significantly upgraded, then the input subsystem. I see linked parts and the work that was done on articulations as a manifestation of work on the "data management" subsystem, and I expect that at the moment that either the shape subsystem (which I consider including the shape designer, smart shapes, and the shape part of the expression and articulation tools) or the text subsystem, (which I consider including lyrics, text blocks, and the the text part of the expression and articulation tools) are going to be the area of work in the next couple of upgrades.

I wonder how many first time buyers in the UK are buying Finale in preference to S~? Go to <http://www.musicroom.com/software.html>, select the "software" tab, and look at the list of the top 10 bestsellers. Then do a search for Sibelius, and check out the new user, non-educational price in the UK, and compare it with the price for the same user for Finale.

What does this say about which, if either, is more likely the sinking ship?

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