On 23 Mar 2008, at 3:40 PM, shirling & neueweise wrote:

Performances of Ferneyhough (at least the ones I've heard) tend to be approximate at best. I don't fault the performers -- I very much doubt the composer could clap his own rhythms with any accuracy either.

as i understand it he has actually performed in one of his recent works, and i think things just might depend on where you have heard it and by whom...

I hadn't heard that -- good for him.

As for the rest of your post, I wish you wouldn't give me credit for saying things I'm not saying.

Many professional classically-trained musicians -- most, I would say, although younger generations are considerably better -- can't play *Piazolla's* rhythms accurately or convincingly, let alone Ferneyhough's. A great many of them cannot play a long string of quarter notes without speeding up or slowing down, or play three quarter-note triplets of equal length (which is kind of an important prerequisite before attempting 5/6). Rhythmic authority is not something that is emphasized in conservatory training. Many established classical teachers even disdain rhythmic accuracy as "mechanical," something to be avoided at all costs in all situations, and heap even more disdain on music that requires a regular, stable pulse. And god forbid you suggest that they might want to break out the metronome on occasion.

So it's a bit galling for someone coming from a tradition where it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that rhythmic authority to hear players who clearly have zero emotional connection to rhythm, and who have not spent the long hours necessary to develop a solid internal sense of time, fake their way through the rhythmic minefileds laid by composers like Ferneyhough (especially when you know these are players who fall all over themselves trying to find the "and" of three in a bar of 4/4). And then to have people congratulate them on their uncanny ability to perform such rhythmically challenging music!

I also find it frustrating that performers can mostly get away with this sloppiness in this kind of music, because it so often lacks an audible rhythmic grid, some kind of regular reference point against which the "irrational" rhythms are juxtaposed. I find the jazz-based and postminimalist/totalist/metametric/Downtown approach to these rhythms much more satisfying. And in those situations, you can tell instantly if someone is faking it. But, you know, that's just my personal preference.

I don't like Ferneyhough's stuff -- it's not my thing. But I certainly don't begrudge him his music or his admirers, nor performances by musicians who take his music's considerable rhythmic demands seriously. It's only the pikers I can't stand.

Cheers,

- Darcy
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