Just to clarify, this would be in the context of a string quartet, not an 
orchestral context.  Thanks for the responses thus far.

C.

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Colin Broom


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> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:24:57 +0100
> From: owainsut...@gmail.com
> To: finale@shsu.edu
> Subject: Re: [Finale] OT: con sord + harmonics
> 
> Yes, many players will react with distaste at the possibility - but then 
> again, many pretty much avoid ever playing a true sul pont, too.
> 
> For an example, I'm fairly sure the end of the Nocturne from the Britten 
> op. 6 suite, featuring both natural and artificial harmonics, is muted. 
>   (My music is all currently boxed up for moving house, so I can't check.)
> 
> Muted sul pont (when played properly!) is very effective, if very quiet.
> 
> Owain
> 
> 
> Robert Patterson wrote:
> > In my experience, neither conductors nor string players like the
> > combination very much. It makes the harmonic sound very tentative, and
> > I think it is harder to produce. I called for this combination once,
> > and the conductor asked me to let them remove the mutes. But I liked
> > the effect and asked them to leave them on. Nevertheless in other
> > pieces I am very conscious that it may be too much of a good thing.
> > 
> > For chamber pieces with solo strings, I have been asked by the players
> > if they may remove their mutes, and then I agreed. It is a combination
> > I have learned to avoid in solo parts. (The players may not ask: they
> > may just remove their mutes for the harmonic anyway.)
> > 
> > On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Colin Broom<colin_br...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> I figure there's a lot of epxerienced strong players and orchestrators out 
> >> there, and I've read some very good advice here before, so here goes:
> >>
> >> Can anyone tell me (as much as it is possible to describe something like 
> >> this) on an orchestral string instrument what effect applying the mute has 
> >> on harmonics, artificial or natural?  Does it even have much of an effect? 
> >>  Or does it even cause problems in the playing of them?
> >>
> >> Similarly, what effect does the mute have on sul pont.?
> >>
> >> If anyone can even point me in the direction of pieces that make use of 
> >> either or these (with mute) I'd be grateful.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> C.
> >>
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> >> Colin Broom
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> >>
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