On 17 Mar 2010, at 10:46 AM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:

> This makes no sense to me. How could string players have missed this? Doesn't
> everybody playing any instrument play at least a little pop or jazz -- even to
> earn supplementary income -- if they were born after, say, 1930? No? Yes?

Yes.

However, expectations are extremely low.

Part of this is just a fundamental lack of respect for nonclassical music. I 
suspect most orchestral string players have no idea how terrible they sound 
playing jazz rhythms or pop rhythms -- and if they do realize it, they simply 
don't care. As far as they are concerned, that music is beneath them. They are 
wholly uninterested in putting even a minimum of effort into it -- say, picking 
up recordings of the Walter Page-Jo Jones edition of the Count Basie band and 
trying to play along with Lester Young's solos, imitating his phrasing and 
vibrato (which is easily translatable to string instruments). And even if one 
person is willing to do a little homework, getting the entire section to do it? 
Fuhgeddaboudit.

Also, I hate to say it, but even the most well-intentioned players, who have an 
authentic love and respect for swinging jazz or hard-grooving R&B or rock, 
*vastly* underestimate the difficulty of playing that kind of music 
convincingly. It is comparable to learning a foreign language, in terms of the 
time investment required, the benefits of early immersion, and the telltale 
accent that is almost impossible for non-native speakers to get rid of.

The other, more fundamental, problem is a lack of emotional connection to the 
beat, which is endemic in classical circles. It's changing -- the generation of 
classically-trained players in their 20's and 30's is *much* better about this, 
judging by NYC new music circles at least -- but for the most part, older 
orchestral players are incapable of playing music that demands rhythmic 
authority or the ability to control placement in relation to a regular pulse. 
They don't hear it and they don't feel it. But it's hard to swing if you can't 
play four consistent quarter notes in a row.

Cheers,

- DJA
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