Always funny when threads loose their original point. I asked for a Final 
breath mark articulation that would not delay the pulse of Human Playback, as 
the hanging comma is interpreted as a caesura by HP. On that matter I have 
drawn the conclusion, that if using the hanging comma then as an expression. 
Nobody accused any player of delaying the pulse as a result of a breath mark in 
the part. That error is alone with Finale’s HP.

As a PS I mentioned being scolded for not placing breath marks just before a 
multi measure rest, because a self alleged authority wanted the phrasing marks 
uniform with the parts that continued playing. From the way my thinking was 
trained, it is profoundly wrong to put a breath mark in front of any length of 
rest, even the shortest. If the parts with the mm-rests are supposed to cut off 
at the start of the rest, I would put a tenuto articulation over their last 
note. Otherwise I would assume their musicianship lead them to a phrasing being 
uniform with the parts having breath marks, as that would be the phrasing the 
conductor would express.

Klaus





>________________________________
> From: Christopher Smith <[email protected]>
>
>On Mon Nov 5, at MondayNov 5 6:05 AM, David H. Bailey wrote:
>
>> On 11/4/2012 2:16 PM, Jonathan Smith wrote:
>> [snip]> I mention this because I'm in rehearsal at this very moment for a
>>> show with a 50 piece chorus and 30 piece orchestra and the MD asked
>>> the brass to mark in a breath just at the end of their entry to
>>> effect a similar phrase ending as the choir were making. A good idea
>>> and it worked well.
>> 
>> It worked well because all the brass marked it in their own parts, in 
>> their own handwriting, and so are going to remember why it was put in there.
>> 
>> Had it been printed there would probably have been a waste of rehearsal 
>> time while everybody tried to figure out just what was meant by adding a 
>> breath mark just before a multi-measure rest.
>> 
>> There's a big difference between the markings we make ourselves (and 
>> thus serve as gentle reminders of what we're supposed to do) and the 
>> marking that are printed and that we need to guess at what the 
>> composers' intentions were.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> David H. Bailey
>> [email protected]
>
>While I agree with the premise that as performers we treat our own marks a bit 
>differently than the published marks, I disagree on the point in question. I 
>am a brass player and I see published breath marks notated as commas just 
>before rests all the time. We all know what they mean, and none of us adds 
>time to the measure. We take it out of the length of the last note. 
>Furthermore, it would save rehearsal time if we saw them more often. While 
>some consider that to be the kind of thing that gets worked out at rehearsal 
>(true enough) we always appreciate it when those kind of things are 
>(correctly) marked.
>
>Christopher
>
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