At 7:17 AM -0500 11/5/12, Christopher Smith wrote:
>
>While I agree with the premise that as 
>performers we treat our own marks a bit 
>differently than the published marks, I disagree 
>on the point in question. I am a brass player 
>and I see published breath marks notated as 
>commas just before rests all the time. We all 
>know what they mean, and none of us adds time to 
>the measure. We take it out of the length of the 
>last note. Furthermore, it would save rehearsal 
>time if we saw them more often. While some 
>consider that to be the kind of thing that gets 
>worked out at rehearsal (true enough) we always 
>appreciate it when those kind of things are 
>(correctly) marked.


Exact cutoff points ALWAYS have to be 
interpreted, in my experience both as a writer 
and as a player.  If a phrase ends with a 
full-bar whole note, should it cut off ON beat 4, 
at the very END of beat 4, or at the barline 
(which can be interpreted as on the next 
downbeat)?

Tie that note to a cutoff note, and it still has 
to be interpreted.  Should the cutoff note be 
held full value (thus delaying the cutoff to the 
NEXT beat)?  Should it be played AS IF there were 
a staccato dot on it (which unfortunately can 
imply giving an unintended "bump")?  Should the 
cutoff come right on the initial beat of the 
cutoff note?  This is the scenario that could 
involve the use of a breath-mark comma.  (In this 
case I personally tend to use a quarter note if I 
want full value, an 8th note if I want the cutoff 
on the beginning of the note, but neither is 
really an EXACT indication.)

I'm not suggesting that this is a huge problem. 
Musicianship and a sense of phrase almost always 
provides the answer.  When necessary, a conductor 
provides it.  In really good chamber music 
discussion and a decision provides it (and 
probably leads to pencilled markings).  And in 
fact this is only one of a great many ways in 
which our system of notation is simply a 
more-or-less outline or blueprint for producing 
sound, which is ALWAYS a matter of interpretation 
that depends heavily on knowledge of a given 
style and familiarity with the "tricks of the 
trade" that tell us how to interpret the dots in 
that style.  And I suspect that for any given 
ensemble with any given conductor there is a 
consensus that has developed over time, and no 
one really stops to think about it.

John


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John R. Howell, Assoc. Prof. of Music
Virginia Tech Department of Music
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