If I use the Scoremanager to specify I am using tablature, ukulele and then insert a C chord into the score, it rightly displays "C", but puts a diagram of an F chord underneath the C. Same same with all other uke chords, they're a fourth/fifth out. ? Graeme
On 22 Jun 2014, at 5:26 pm, Christopher Smith <christopher.sm...@videotron.ca> wrote: > Okay, a couple of basics. > > When you type a chord, you are typing three things, according to Finale. You > are typing the root, the alteration to the root if there is one (C or C#, for > example), and finally the suffix. When you type a suffix, you are only typing > the characters in the suffix. If the suffix is not found with those > characters IN THE EXACT ORDER AND CASE YOU TYPED THEM, then you will get an > error message asking if you want to create the missing suffix. Unless you are > using Arial as a suffix font, do not answer "yes" to this dialogue box, as > you will jump out of your window from frustration in a few hours. Create the > missing suffix manually instead. > > You are right that the chord you want is not included in some Finale suffix > libraries. You will have to tell me which library you have loaded to give me > a clue. If you have a JazzCord suffix library loaded, many of these suffixes > ARE NOT SEPARATE CHARACTERS, but only one character. If you go to the Help > menu and select Character Sets>Jazz Font and scroll down to the JazzCord > font, you will see that 7#5b9 is indeed missing, but you DO have 7b9b13 by > typing opt-Q, for example. > > You will also see that you have a "constructor set" of all the different > glyphs you need to make a similar-looking suffix. Unfortunately, duplicating > an existing suffix and trying to edit it will cause you much headaches. For > one thing, let's say you have a suffix that is NOT only one gylph (which you > can't edit, of course) but is actually separate characters typed (in order) > 7(b9) and you want to duplicate it and add the #5. This may be much more > complicated than it appears. > > You can NOT insert characters into the sequence. You cannot DELETE characters > from the sequence without deleting ALL of the following characters. This > means that if you try to insert the #5 in front of the b9, you will end up > having to DELETE everything except 7( and type everything in one by one, then > manually dragging it into position (or trying to guess what numbers would > give you the proper result in the position boxes!) This edit window is tiny, > the nudge keys do not work, and if you want to stack the alterations you will > NOT find double-height parentheses in the font. Also, if you later try to > type 7(#5b9) but the entered order was actually 7(b9#5), then THAT is the > only way to type it. Gah. > > Your problem with the b instead of a flat has a solution, but I don't know > it. Sorry about that. I solved it about ten years back and promptly forgot > it. Tech support should be able to help with this one. > > You have a place to define and edit playback in the suffix editor. It is the > button called Play. Chords get pounded out on the downbeat, double-forte, in > the exact position you entered them, but transposed according to the root of > the chord. That means NO voice-leading! Band in a Box does this kind of thing > beautifully (programmed by Oliver Gannon, quite a musician!) but the BIAB and > the MIBAC plugins stopped working long ago in Finale. It is ugly to the point > of being useless as a reference. As a result, I never use the chord playback, > but enter my own chord realisations in Layer 1 and let it be hidden by the > Slash Notation staff style. > > There is no way to see what chord has a playback and which ones don't. Yes, > this sucks. > > Do yourself (and every other user!) a favour and complain about all of this > to Tech Support. There is so much wrong here, it isn't funny. > > Christopher > > > On Sat Jun 21, at SaturdayJun 21 11:34 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: > >> I have found the the whole chord thing unbelievably tedious for as long >> as I have used Finale -- over 10 releases I'm sure. >> >> I decided to take some time to really try to learn how to make the >> system work tonight. This has been a miserable failure. >> >> My ideal would be to be able to enter chords as easily as you can with >> Band-in-a-box. If you want a "7 sharp 5 flat 9" chord, you simply type >> A7#5b9 and there is nothing to it. But not with Finale. >> >> First off, that chord isn't even defined to Finale as far as I ca tell, >> so I decided to try to add it myself. I used the convention that is >> consistent with the other chords in Finale, typing "A7(#5b9)". That >> took me to a dialog to define my own chord. I entered the playback >> intervals. There are lots of bugs in this. I crashed Finale 2014 >> several times doing that, but I think I eventually ended up with the >> correct playback. >> >> The problem is that the suffix displays with the "b" instead of the flat >> symbol. No problem, I thought I would go in and edit the symbols. I >> was able to change that symbol to a flat, displaying adequately. But >> now the suffix library has been altered so I can no longer enter the >> suffix using the "b" character, and there is no way to enter the flat >> symbol when entering chords. >> >> I can't find any way to get this to work right. I notice that the >> default library allows you to type "A7(b9)" and displays it with the >> flat symbol, but I cannot find any way to get my suffix set up that way. >> >> It is really discouraging that after so many releases, this chord thing >> would be as bad as it is. For example, is there any way to simply >> display the chord suffixes that are already defined? I don't think so >> -- I sure couldn't find it. I know I must have created a lot of garbage >> over the last 3 hours and I'd like to get rid of the useless entries, >> but it appears Finale doesn't even provide a way to see what is there. >> >> And similarly, it seems that there is no way to change the playback >> voicing (or even see it) once a chord is defined. The "edit suffix" >> dialog leaves out the playback section altogether. >> >> Am I missing something very basic here? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Finale mailing list >> Finale@shsu.edu >> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> >> To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: >> finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
