On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 05:19, William C. Ingle-Gillis wrote:
> Short story:  I want to run KOffice apps in XDarwin rootless with a
> non-K window manager, but they don't seem to run properly.  They run
> just fine in KDE itself, so I know they're working.  Just need to know
> how / if I can tweak other WMs to run them.   
>  
> Longer version:  
>  
> Got the new Fink 0.5a installed on my Jaguar/10.2 Rev C iMac in
> college.  XDarwin (latest version, IIRC) was already installed.  Also
> had OroborOS-X onhand already.  Proceeded to download xmms as a test. 
> Loaded up just fine with OroborOS-X running rootless, and also with
> XDarwin/TWM running in fullscreen mode.  
>  
> Now the biggie:  (apt-)got the full KDE bundle, got it all installed ...
> and to my relief it worked the very first time, once i'd figured out how
> and where to edit .xinitrc.  Loads and runs a little sluggish; and must
> run fullscreen (won't run rootless) -- but it does the trick by and
> large.  I'm delighted.   

kwin runs rootless.  You just have to turn off the desktop icons (under
Kontrol)

>  
> However, what I *can't* seem to do is run the KDE/QT-based apps (KWord,
> for example, or KMail) on any window manager other than KDE.   If I
> start them in terminal (or from a fullscreen non-K WM), it's evident
> that they're trying to crank up; but in the end, nothing really ever
> happens, and no windows ever appear.  Don't know if the programmes are
> freezing as such; but in the end, I end up having to shut down XDarwin
> from Aqua to make them stop.)  Can anyone help?   
>

Really?  I'm able to run them from OroborOSX--I do have to minimize the
menu bar because OroborOSX focuses on it rather than the application
window.
  
> My Linux box at home (Mandrake 9.0) handles this matter just fine ...
> and has always done so, straight out of the box (no tweaking required). 
> Although I normally run KDE on the home box, if I want to run KMail
> under Enlightenment or IceWM, it gives me no problems whatsoever.  I
> guess I just naively assumed that this would work in Darwin, too.  No
> such luck.   
>  
> In a perfect world, what i'd like to do is run IceWM or OroborOS-X
> rootless in tandem with Aqua, so that i could have a WM with a light
> footprint (i.e., better suited to an old Mac w/ slow-ish processor &
> only 160mb RAM), wouldn't have to switch back and forth, but will still
> have access to the KOffice apps, which I use at home.  (This would also
> enable me to ditch MSWord once and for all.)   
>  
> In a less than perfect world, I suppose I've got the basic functionality
> required as things now stand.  But if someone could give me tweaking
> tips so I can get a little closer to the perfect world, I'd be very much
> obliged.  
>  
> Also -- is anyone else having probs with sound on KDE?  Mine doesn't
> seem to like my soundcard (bog standard Rev C iMac soundcard, whatever
> that is).   
> 
> 
> 
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