On Sun, 13 Jan 2002, Max Horn wrote:
> At 11:06 Uhr -0800 13.01.2002, Gordon Messmer wrote:
> >On Sun, 13 Jan 2002, Finlay Dobbie wrote:
> >
> >> Goddamn Apple for removing gnutar in OS X (even if it was only in the
> >> Developer Tools... grrr).
> >
> >Yeah... I love how the Darwin system is entirely BSD, except where it's
> >not.
> >
> >Stupid POSIX limited tools anyway.
>
> I am not quite sure if you are ironic or serious. Since you do not
> add any smileys or anything, I take you serious.
No, I hate the BSD utilities. GNU's utilities are a lot more useable,
even though they aren't 100% POSIX (like 1k blocks instead of 512B).
> The lack of POSIX compatibility in OS X is often enough a portability
> hindrance. And IMHO, compared to e.g. the GNU variants of many
> standard tools, the BSD tools are crippled, lack features and only
> have limited capabilities when it comes to exchange with system that
> comply to POSIX, which, like it or not, is the de-facto Unix standard.
POSIX is good except where it's not. That's usually where GNU is better.
:)
> One of the most horrid things about BSD in my opinion is the complete
> lack of strict file locking. No way for an app to protect its data
> from being nuked while working on it.
Ick. Most of my development has been on GNU systems, so I don't know much
about BSD's locking limitations. I do however, know a lot about the
consequenses of not locking files. Ever run sendmail on Slackware < 7?
They left procmail using lockf *and* flock (and still do), which didn't
work on Linux 2.0. Consequently, no file locking. :(
> Apple is claiming to work towards POSIX, but so far I haven't seen
> much on that front. But actually, I'd prefer if they would finally
> fixing some of the really bad errors and shortcomings in the Unix
> part of OS X (like pthreads or mkdir()).
Yeah, how the hell did those go wrong? It's not like they didn't have
working implimentations to adapt.
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