On Tuesday, April 9, 2002, at 11:11  PM, Chris Devers wrote:

> On Tue, 9 Apr 2002, Dave Vasilevsky wrote:
>
>> David R. Morrison wrote:
>>
>>> it is quite possible that they are behaving better
>>> now.
>>
>> It looks like they're not:
>> <http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=site%3Aopenosx.com+fink>
>
> That returns nothing for me. Are you sure about that URL?

Yes it returns nothing, that's the point: They still aren't mentioning 
Fink anywhere on their site.

>> This seems to be a solution without a problem. Perhaps there have been
>> requests from users for a CD, in which case this would be reasonable --
>> but I haven't really seen any.
>
> Ok, maybe there hasn't been much expressed interest, but I for one would
> be interested in it. It would be nice to have a disc with the sources &
> debs that could be applied to a new OSX box.

But I already have that!

find /sw/fink/dists -name \*.deb | xargs cp --target-directory ~/Debs/
# Take 3 seconds to copy everything to a CD, then wait 30 mins for it to 
burn

# Move to another box, insert CD:
foreach ii in /Volumes/Debs/*; do
        dpkg -i $ii
done

> Everything on the cover & on their web site describes it as "shareware"

Then we ought to inform Macworld that it's available freely, and that 
anyone can contribute, etc. Nothing else we can do.

> Yes, they do seem to
> give credit for every project and they tell you that the source can be
> downloaded if you want it from various points on the internet, but 
> that's
> about it. Is there a legal defence for that kind of behavior?

There's no defense, because there's no violation. Failure to give credit 
isn't nice, but it isn't a violation of the GPL either.

Speaking of GPL violations, OpenOSX *does* distribute an "update" 
package for PHP at this page <http://openosx.com/support/index.html>. 
This includes the entire binary PHP package (so far as I can tell), and 
is capable of being used on its own, yet does not include source or an 
offer to provide source, or even the GPL COPYING file.

Dave


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