On Tue, 9 Apr 2002, Dave Vasilevsky wrote:

> David R. Morrison wrote:
>
> > The issue with these folks in the past was whether they were using our
> > work without giving credit.  They did add a comment on their website,
> > but it wasn't enough to satisfy reasonable people, IMHO.  But that is
> > in the past, and it is quite possible that they are behaving better
> > now.
>
> It looks like they're not:
> <http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=site%3Aopenosx.com+fink>

That returns nothing for me. Are you sure about that URL?

> But I don't know if that really matters. Nobody cares about Apple
> "failing to credit" Berkeley

...well, it's one of the first outputs if you boot in verbose mode, and
they don't seem to downplay the open Unix framework anywhere, but ok :)

> > The real solution, it seems to me, is a fink CD. [snip]
>
> This seems to be a solution without a problem. Perhaps there have been
> requests from users for a CD, in which case this would be reasonable --
> but I haven't really seen any.

Ok, maybe there hasn't been much expressed interest, but I for one would
be interested in it. It would be nice to have a disc with the sources &
debs that could be applied to a new OSX box.

> If we really would like credit, perhaps someone should write a letter to
> Macworld promoting Fink?

I like this idea. I also like the idea of an open, group letter, cc'ed to
MacWorld, OpenOSX, and any other relevant organizations. (O'Reilly seems
to be a partner on the MacWorld OSX issue, but knowing them I wouldn't
think they had anything to do with encouraging what we're seeing here, so
I'm not ready to get mad at them too at this point.) In any case, sending
first drafts of such a letter to the group first would be appropriate.

> I don't read Macworld, so I wouldn't know, but have they ever done a
> feature or even a small article on open source software for OS X? Maybe
> that could be suggested...

Everything on the cover & on their web site describes it as "shareware",
which has the wrong connotations in my mind. We're not dealing with any
cripple-ware with an expiration date or a fee. This stuff really is Free
in the way Richard Stallman rambles on endlessly about, and whether or not
he takes things too far, the ideals shown there do need to have at least
an acknowledgement of some kind.



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