Elaborating on Bruce Korb's point, if we look at the sizes of the debs: [ldx3:main/binary-darwin-powerpc/x11-system] hansen% ls -l total 47288 -rw-r--r-- 1 root admin 1684000 Dec 10 11:12 xfree86-base-threaded-shlibs_4.2.1.1-3_darwin-powerpc.deb -rw-r--r-- 1 root admin 42540212 Dec 10 11:12 xfree86-base-threaded_4.2.1.1-3_darwin-powerpc.deb -rw-r--r-- 1 root admin 327472 Dec 10 11:12 xfree86-rootless-threaded-shlibs_4.2.1.1-3_darwin-powerpc.deb -rw-r--r-- 1 root admin 3866616 Dec 10 11:12 xfree86-rootless-threaded_4.2.1.1-3_darwin-powerpc.deb
the -rootless packages add only around 4 megs to the 40+ of the -base, although I'm not sure if the proportionality is the same for the files as installed. For an interim solution: I'll add a FAQ entry, like Martin suggested. On Mon, 2003-01-06 at 13:56, Jeff Whitaker wrote: > On Mon, 6 Jan 2003, Martin Costabel wrote: > > > > > Many (most) packages that need to run under X11 have a dependency on > > the virtual package x11. This is not enough to make them work. > > > > The x11 virtual package is provided by the xfree86-base package. The > > problem with this is that when xfree86 is compiled and installed as a > > result of this dependency on x11, *only* xfree86-base and as its > > dependency, xfree86-base-shlibs are installed. The other two packages, > > xfree86-rootless and its *-shlibs are not installed, although they > > contain the X server and without them nothing works. > > > > So every poor beginner falls automatically into this trap. He compiles > > for 3 hours and then it tells him that "no X server is in your PATH". I > > had this myself recently on a newly installed system: "fink install > > scilab", 4 hours of compilation, and then it doesn't work. > > > > Either the "Provides: x11" has to be shifted from *-base to *-rootless, > > or the packages that really need X11 windows and not just some of the > > libraries, must depend on something else, maybe another virtual package > > 'xserver' that is provided by xfree86-rootless (and by system-xfree86). > > > > > I argue for leaving it as is. We indeed have had this discussion before, > and the conclusion was that since there are lots of ways to use X11 apps > without having xfree86-rootless installed, we should not move "Provides: > x11" to xfree86-rootless. For example, you can run these apps remotely on > a machine that does have an Xserver installed, or you can run them in > Xvnc/Vncviewer, or you can run them in oroborus X (which has it's own > XDarwin bundled in). Why force people to install xfree86-rootless if they > don't really need to? (Actually, unless things have changed since last I made the attempt, OroborOSX does require xfree86-rootless* to be installed: its XDarwin is apparently only a replacement for /Applications/XDarwin.app) > > -Jeff > > -- > Jeffrey S. Whitaker Phone : (303)497-6313 > NOAA/OAR/CDC R/CDC1 FAX : (303)497-6449 > 325 Broadway Web : http://www.cdc.noaa.gov/~jsw > Boulder, CO, USA 80305-3328 Office: Skaggs Research Cntr 1D-124 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > Welcome to geek heaven. > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > _______________________________________________ > Fink-devel mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel > -- Alexander K. Hansen Associate Research Scientist, Columbia University visiting MIT Plasma Science and Fusion Center Levitated Dipole Experiment 175 Albany Street, NW17-219 Cambridge, MA 02139-4213 ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _______________________________________________ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
