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On 9/23/11 11:31 AM, Hanspeter Niederstrasser wrote:
> On 9/23/2011 10:56 AM, Alexander Hansen wrote:
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>> On 9/16/11 2:35 AM, Martin Costabel wrote:
>>> On 15/09/11 16:13, David R. Morrison wrote: []
>>>> But there are also lots of unmaintained things in unstable,
>>>> many of them very old, so I think it would be dangerous to
>>>> just dump everything to stable.  I like Alexander's
>>>> approach.
>>> 
>>> Why would this be more dangerous than the current situation,
>>> where almost everybody is using the unstable tree anyway? Do
>>> you know anyone, except some innocent newbies, who is really
>>> using the stable tree?
>> 
>> That's more of a question of "Do we bother to keep this old,
>> broken stuff or update it?"  In principle it's probably just as
>> easy to decide on that after a rollover.
> 
> The 10.5/unstable buildworld from back in August 2010 took care of
> a lot of brokenness in unstable.  And those packages that still
> remain broken are not necessarily the ancient abandoned ones, but
> instead many belong to people who are still in communication with
> the project.
> 
> Here's the list of the buildworld results.  Important: this is from
>  August 2010.  A lot of things marked broken there have been fixed
> in the past year.
> 
> http://www.snaggledworks.com/fink/buildworld/2010-08-14/out/maintindex.html
>
>  I think the primary thing with a lot of downstream effect that has
>  gotten updated since then was Qt4 and I know it broke a number of
>  things, so it might have a wider effect than is known.  If
> MaxBuildJobs gets turned to on by default in the next Fink release,
> that will probably introduce some more brokenness, but running a
> new buildworld should find them.
> 
> I do _not_ have the ability to run a buildworld again for the 
> foreseeable future.  However, if anyone has a machine with
> available CPU cycles (expect 2-3 weeks), I can easily walk them
> through the process of getting it going.
> 
> Hanspeter
> 
> ps.  the earlier 10.5/stable buildworld (in March?) showed about
> the same proportion of broken packages, so just stable was not
> necessarily stabler.  I think this was one of the good things to
> come out of the new 10.7 tree.  It'll be stable on 10.7 ;)
> 

This suggests a more automatic way to start phasing unstable out.

1)  If a package is in the 10.7 tree and has a nominally identical
counterpart in the 10.4 tree (same version, revision | dependencies,
etc.) then the 10.4 counterpart can be moved to stable, too.

2)  As these counterparts get added to 10.4/stable, we _remove_ them
from 10.4/unstable.  That way we don't have to worry about doing diffs
between the trees.  We'll do the same thing if there are identical
package descriptions in 10.4/stable and 10.4/unstable.
- -- 
Alexander Hansen, Ph.D.
Fink User Liaison
http://finkakh.wordpress.com/
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