On 6/14/13 7:43 AM, Jack Howarth wrote: > On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 07:21:12AM -0700, Alexander Hansen wrote: >> The discussion below also applies to 10.8. >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: Re: [fink-seed] 10.9 >> Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2013 07:06:55 -0700 >> From: Alexander Hansen <alexanderk.han...@gmail.com> >> Organization: Fink Core Team >> To: fink ADC/seed NDA list <fink-s...@lists.sourceforge.net> >> CC: Jack Howarth <howa...@bromo.med.uc.edu> >> >> On 6/14/13 6:52 AM, Jack Howarth wrote: >> >> <snip> >> >>> If you execute 'java', the user is directed to Oracle's web site (without >>> clear instructions to install either the jre or the jdk). The legacy Java >>> 1.6 >>> runtime is only installed when you try to execute programs which are already >>> linked to that framework. I assume this is the same as current 10.8. One >>> problem we may have on both 10.8 and 10.9 is the location of the dylibs in >>> the Oracle JDK. Unlike Apple, Oracle doesn't install the JDK as a framework. >>> As far as I can tell this results in the the dylibs residing in a path with >>> the full java version number embedded in it as described in... >>> >>> http://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/webnotes/install/mac/mac-jdk.html >>> http://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/webnotes/install/mac/mac-install-faq.html >>> >>> It is unclear to me how executables linked against the shared libs in... >>> >>> /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/jdk1.7.0_21.jdk/Contents/Home/jre/lib >>> >>> are supposed to find their shared libs when the jdk gets updated to a >>> newer release. It would seem that users need to install both the jre and the >>> jdk. As far as I can tell, the JRE installs its dylibs in... >>> >> >> According to Oracle, the JDK includes the JRE, and this appears to be >> the case on my system, too. >> >>> /Library/Java/Home/bundle/Libraries >>> >>> whereas the JDK uses the versioned directory... >>> >>> /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/jdk1.7.0_21.jdk/Contents/Home/jre/lib >>> >>> and these don't even match up as the same libs. This is very confusing since >>> the framework linkage used by JDK 1.6 doesn't clearly indicate which dylibs >>> are used to resolve symbols. >>> Jack >>> >>> >> >> eww, right. A specific example being: >> >> $ ls -l > >> /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/jdk1.7.0_21.jdk/Contents/Home/jre/lib/libawt.dylib >> >> >> >> -rwxrwxr-x 1 root wheel 563940 Apr 7 15:10 >> /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/jdk1.7.0_21.jdk/Contents/Home/jre/lib/libawt.dylib >> $ ls -l /Library/Java/Home/bundle/Libraries/libawt.jnilib >> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4652208 Apr 16 14:10 >> /Library/Java/Home/bundle/Libraries/libawt.jnilib >> >> We've got a current issue on fink about the system-java virtual packages >> for 10.8 related to this, too. It took me this long to figure out >> _what_ the heck I was actually supposed to download and install so that >> I could actually experience the issue. This only affects dependencies >> and not actual package builds. > > It also may be help to bring this issue up on the macports-dev mailing list to > see what information they have on the problem and how it is to be addressed > there.
Knock yourself out. I'm not a subscriber. > The only obvious approach I see would be to force users to install both the > jre and jdk > but have the builds use the headers from the jdk but link against the libs in > the jre. > Jack > Oracle _claimed_ that the JDK subsumed the JRE, but after checking on a system with a clean 10.8 install where I only installed the JRE, I don't have /Library/Java/Home. -- Alexander Hansen, Ph.D. Fink User Liaison My package updates: http://finkakh.wordpress.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev _______________________________________________ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net List archive: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.os.apple.fink.devel Subscription management: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
