On Tuesday, February 5, 2002, at 02:52 PM, Finlay Dobbie wrote:

>> (I  already deleted them via the pane and my system refused to recognize 
>> my Admin account!!)?
>
> What? It probably isn't wise to delete them via the Users pane because 
> System Preferences is idiotic. I don't know what you're talking about 
> with your Admin account, you just seem to be talking nonsense.
>
I don't think so, wasn't this a known problem of the User's prefs panel 
being dumb? IIRC it just transfers ownership of a deleted user's home dir 
to some other (admin) user, and if that home dir happens to be / or /usr 
as probably the case for some of the special users, you're in trouble. 
Which of course boils down again to "don't use the Users panel to delete 
users!"

On Tuesday, February 5, 2002, at 10:28 AM, Erik Price wrote:

> But this makes me wonder -- what criteria does Mac OS X use to hide its 
> own default "extra" users from the login prompt?  I know I can switch to 
> a login screen that requires one to type the login name manually rather 
> than picking from a list of icons, but if I want to keep the list format,
>  how do I hide the rest (the same way Darwin hides "www", "nobody", 
> "daemon", "root" etc)?  Or does it automatically hide login names with 
> UID < 100 ?
>
Yes, I think UID<100 is exactly the criterion (well, maybe <=100, dunno ;-
).
I have fared very well on my system with just reducing all UIDs and GIDs 
of the passwd-fink users by 200. Which of course raises the question:
what prevents fink from using these IDs per default? I am of course aware 
that IDs in that range are somewhat more queasy than >200, I just haven't 
noticed anything that wants to install users in this range. Is there any 
common software around using the 50-60 IDs, or is there an official Apple 
policy that 3rd-party software shall not install users in the special 
range?

Just curious,
                                                        Derek


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