I just learned of a case proceeding in Oklahoma over a new law that makes it
illegal for the owner of a parking lot to prohibit guns from being carried
within the cars that park there.

The case generally is described in this article:


http://www.texarkanagazette.com/articles/2005/08/02/local_news/news/news05.t
xt

The case is Whirlpool Corp. v. Henry, No. 04-CV-820-H(J) (ND Okla). A
certified question (whether violation of the statute is a criminal offense)
was answered by a state appellate court here: 110 P.3d 83.

An article discussing the general problem of whether to allow guns in cars
at one's place of employment is here:
http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1101738488286


The general question I pose to the list is this: What constitutional or
general legal principles govern whether, when, and to what degree a state
legislature may intrude on private property rights, particularly the right
to exclude others from one's property, as it relates to the carrying or
possession of firearms?





In Minnesota, a case has just been filed challenging our newly re-enacted
shall-issue statute on religious freedom grounds. The churches claim that it
violates their free exercise of religion to have to tolerate guns in cars or
carried on the person in their parking lots, and to have to post signs of
specific description and wording in order to exclude guns from their
buildings. 

One of the claims is under the takings clause. The same plaintiffs, in an
earlier suit, had made the same argument, though the case was disposed of on
other grounds, so the takings question was never reached. Their memorandum
of law is here: 
http://www.fredlaw.com/news/conceal/SingleSubjectandTakingsSummaryJudgmentBr
ief.pdf, with the takings argument starting on p. 18.

So the more specific question is this: Are state restrictions on the rights
of private property owners to exclude persons carrying guns (on their person
or in a car) legitimately analyzed as a taking, either a physical or a
regulatory taking?

Discuss amongst yourselves.

-- 
Bob Woolley
St. Paul, MN
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


"Democracy has at least one merit, namely that a Member of Parliament
cannot be stupider than his constituents, for the more stupid he is,
the more stupid they were  to elect him."

                                         -- Bertrand Russell



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