If signage exempts the church, I'd be hard put to see a 1st Amendment issue. A religious objection to firearms is conceivable, but I'm hard put to see a religious objection to hanging a sign. Not that plaintiffs couldn't claim one, but it seems a rather long stretch.
I'm reminded of one statute of Elizabeth I, forbidding shooting on the grounds of St. Paul's in London. Not possessing a gun, but shooting it. I suppose that seems a reasonable place-time-manner restriction.... "As St. Paul teaches us in his epistle to the Corinti..." BLAM! [sound of stained glass breaking, richochet zinging] "blast it, not another one!" _____________ -----Original Message----- From: "C. D. Tavares" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Aug 6, 2005 7:17 PM To: "<[email protected]>" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Takings As the original posted noted, the church has an available remedy simply by posting the specified legal signage, which would eliminate the "conflict of rights" problem. Would it be a cheap shot to observe that a pacifistic church that must rely on the government to keep its own congregation pacifistic is an ineffective creed indeed? On Aug 6, 2005, at 11:17 AM, Guy Smith wrote: > I'm venturing into unfamiliar territory, but I think the church may > have > significant grounds. > > 1) The 1st Am. prohibition against free exercise of religion means, in > part, > that churches religious doctrine cannot be interfered with. > > 2) If a church holds that the presence of guns are in some way > offensive to > their religious tenets, the there is a conflict of rights (and given > the > rather pacifistic leanings of various religions, the claim is not a big > stretch). > > 3) Since the 1st Am. right is constitutional, and the CCW right is > legislative . . . > >> What grounds does a religious organization have for using the >> courts to compel the government to prohibit certain activity? -- Escape the Rat Race for Peace, Quiet, and Miles of Desert Beauty Take a Sanity Break at The Bunkhouse at Liberty Haven Ranch http://libertyhavenranch.com _______________________________________________ To post, send message to [email protected] To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/firearmsregprof Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others. _______________________________________________ To post, send message to [email protected] To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/firearmsregprof Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others.
