General Hospital in SF CA sent anyone under 19 to the pediatric unit. Some of them were problems when their homies -- or the people who shot them -- showed up and these "kids" were transferred to the adult trauma floor. I dealt with enough of these "kids" to come to the conclusion that they had given up their status as children long since. Wringing our hands over them -- the "It's about the /children/" syndrome -- is a waste of energy. That some of these young people are salvagable is debateable, but nothing about them is worth sacrificing our Constitutional rights, not even one bit of them.

Jamie

On 6/23/2011 07:39, Guy Smith wrote:

The gun control industry uses sever similar linguistic slight-of-hand moves on this topic, mixing the terms "children", "kids" and "young people" when necessary. This started with the Million Mom March campaign and the "13 children a day" canard, which eventually morphed into "8 young people a day."

Chapter three of /Shooting The Bull/ is devoted to hiding behind children, the Million Mom March and Bowling for Columbine.

Guy Smith

Author /Shooting The Bull <http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0983240701/>/ and /Gun Facts <http://www.gunfacts.info/>/

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*From:*[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Phil Lee
*Sent:* Wednesday, June 22, 2011 10:06 PM
*To:* 'Jamie Fraser-Paige'; 'rufx2'
*Cc:* [email protected]
*Subject:* RE: Firearmsregprof -doctors

About 10 years ago about 50 children 14 and younger were killed by accidental discharge of firearms. Only about 900 people of all ages were killed accidentally (unintentially). No way is that 1,500 number correct.

Now your response show one reason we make little headway against these people and their lies -- there is too much opinion and too little fact used to make a logical response. Do due diligence on the claim -- look up the data on firearm deaths and expose the lies.

Phil

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*From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Jamie Fraser-Paige
*Sent:* Wednesday, June 22, 2011 7:44 PM
*To:* rufx2
*Cc:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: Firearmsregprof -doctors

He seems to be a staff writer for -- or at least a frequent contributor to -- Medical News Today. The only biographical information I could get in a quick search was this, from MediLexicon <http://www.medilexicon.org/ourteam.php> Intl. "Sy Kraft, BA, Writer Sy has a BA in Journalism from California State University and worked at Ogilvy, prior to that he was Principal at G2 (Grey Global)." MediLexicon seems to be the parent of Medical News Today.

More important, where did he learn to do math? He cites "Approximately half of youth gun deaths, or more than 1,500 per year, occur because parents, relatives or friends leave guns accessible to kids." OK, one dead kid whose death could have been prevented by locking up guns is probably one too many. But that's 1,500 for the /_entire nation_/. Kraft goes on to cite these numbers for New York State: "In New York State alone, more than 95,000 youths live in homes with loaded weapons, and over 52,000 of these households have loaded and unlocked firearms." The number of kids killed with unsecured guns nationwide is less than 3% of the total number of kids "exposed" to unsecured guns /_in just one state_/! So the 1,500 kids is pretty small potatoes epidemiological speaking, wouldn't you say? Of course, I;m not a doctor and I;ve never played one on TV. But I can see a lies when it;s right there in front of me.

Jamie


On 6/22/2011 15:14, rufx2 wrote:

Who is "Sy Kraft"

The Center to Prevent Youth Violence (PAX), in collaboration with the American Academy of Pediatrics, created the ASK (Asking Saves Kids) campaign. ASK is a national public health initiative that provides something real every parent can do to keep their children safe.

Article posted at Medical News Today on 6/22/11 by 'Sy Kraft'

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/229340.php

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