A point to contemplate is the effect of the minority murder rates to effect rates in the various states. So, southern states have high murder rates which gun control groups blame on high gun ownership, but is more likely due to the high proportion of minorities, who have low gun ownership rates. But we can't talk about this issue lest we be labeled bigots.
Phil Sent from my iPhone On Mar 24, 2013, at 7:00 PM, "Olson, Joseph E." <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes. You are correct. > > But this is politics not academia. Which is why the anti's use whatever > numbers that support the narrative (learned in J School?). I didn't write > the original piece and Belgium is a bad choice since it's suicide rate is > astonishing. > > On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Volokh, Eugene <[email protected]> wrote: > The CDC, > http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/su6001a14.htm, tbl. 2, reports (2007 > data) that the white non-Hispanic homicide rate was 2.75 (averaging the male > and the female rates); among black non-Hispanics, it was 24, among Hispanics > 7.5, among American Indians 7.85, and among Asians 2.4. > > > > But in any event, I don’t think it’s quite right to compare > the white homicide rate in the U.S. against the total homicide rate in > Belgium (or any similar country). Belgium presumably has its own minority > groups, which might well have higher homicide rates for their own social > reasons. So it seems to me that we should compare the homicide rate among > the majority racial group in the U.S. against the homicide rate among the > majority racial (or, as relevant, ethnic) group in the foreign country, not > among the whole population of the foreign country. > > > > Eugene > > > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Olson, Joseph E. > Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 12:37 PM > To: Firearms Reg, List > Subject: High, very high, rates of homicide and suicide in Black communities. > > > > I believe this is true. Anyone have the cites to the data? > > > > "The homicide rate among whites in the US is roughly the same as the homicide > rate in Belgium (1.5-1.7/100,000). Among Blacks, the rare is 21/100,000. > That's more than double the hispanic rate of 8/100,000. Of those three > groups, blacks are the least likely to own a gun. Homicide in the US is not a > gun problem, it is a young black man problem." > > > > Largely (entirely?) caused by social/cultural deficiencies. > > > > -- > > ************************************************************************************************************** > Professor Joseph Olson, J.D.(Hon. Duke), LL.M.(Tax. Florida) > o 651-523-2142 > Hamline University School of Law (MS-D2037) > f 651-523-2236 > St. Paul, MN 55113-1235 > c 612-865-7956 > > [email protected] > http://law.hamline.edu/constitutional_law/joseph_olson.html > > > _______________________________________________ > To post, send message to [email protected] > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see > http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/firearmsregprof > > Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as > private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; > people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) > forward the messages to others. > > > > -- > ************************************************************************************************************** > Professor Joseph Olson, J.D.(Hon. Duke), LL.M.(Tax. Florida) > o 651-523-2142 > Hamline University School of Law (MS-D2037) > f 651-523-2236 > St. Paul, MN 55113-1235 > c 612-865-7956 > [email protected] > http://law.hamline.edu/constitutional_law/joseph_olson.html > _______________________________________________ > To post, send message to [email protected] > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see > http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/firearmsregprof > > Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as > private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; > people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) > forward the messages to others.
_______________________________________________ To post, send message to [email protected] To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/firearmsregprof Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others.
